Anyone got any reports on how the new Red Fox guide works on Retro cars? Any faster?
New Red Fox guide
#1
Posted 24 May 2017 - 09:39 AM
#2
Posted 24 May 2017 - 10:29 AM
Not Retro car but can report that it was a full tenth faster on LMP car at the D2 Nats. Ran the car with regular guide, then immediately changed to the new one and ran again on the same lane minutes apart. There were others there with the same results.
#3
Posted 24 May 2017 - 10:34 AM
Flat or banked track?
You're never fast enough!!! 💯
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#4
Posted 24 May 2017 - 10:43 AM
This was on the Gerding King.
The same .1 improvement, was quoted to me, on an LMP car on a flatter Gerding King, in Ohio.
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Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
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#5
Posted 24 May 2017 - 05:27 PM
Brian Ambrose
#6
Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:00 PM
Exact words:
"Was a little better in deadman but most improvement was donut and lead-on."
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Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#7
Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:40 PM
OK... I'm going to poke a stick in the bee's nest.
Are these USRA legal?
SIA.
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#8
Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:48 PM
I don't think USRA has approval on guide flags.
Gugu won 1/32 with one, so that must be the case.
The IRRA® has a maximum blade length and thickness rule, that I suggested early on, when the original Red Fox guide came out.
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Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#9
Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:53 PM
OK.
It's little pieces of wire and not molded plastic that they're fixated on. I get it.
"If you have integrity, nothing else matters, and if you do not have integrity, nothing else matters."
Robert Mueller, special counsel (2013)
"... because people have got to know whether or not their president is a crook."
Richard M .Nixon, Nov 17, 1973
"Fool me once, same on... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again."
George W. Bush
#10
Posted 24 May 2017 - 09:47 PM
Not with a Retro car, but Michael Iga's Group F wing car hot lapped at 3.127 tonight on my King.
I think the previous fast hot lap was mid 3.2s, by a number of racers.
Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#11
Posted 25 May 2017 - 03:09 PM
Mike,
After testing the new guides on a Boxstock, LMP, and a Retro Can-Am I can assure you all that there is something to these new Red Fox guides. You all can argue about why and how and I will just start using them.
Greg VanPeenen
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#12
Posted 25 May 2017 - 03:11 PM
GVP, the empiricist... LOL!
Gregory Wells
Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap
#13
Posted 25 May 2017 - 03:27 PM
I just got a reorder for 18 pieces from a renowned racer, so I would say there definitely is something to them.
It will be interesting to see how many will show up on top cars at RetroPalooza.
Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#14
Posted 25 May 2017 - 03:42 PM
I've been told the pink ones come from the straightest mold so they have the least wobble!
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#15
Posted 25 May 2017 - 03:50 PM
Shades of the Jet Flag mold position numbers...
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Gregory Wells
Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap
#16
Posted 25 May 2017 - 03:57 PM
Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#17
Posted 25 May 2017 - 05:19 PM
That's OK, I'll just return some deposit bottles and cans to finance my modernization costs.
"If you have integrity, nothing else matters, and if you do not have integrity, nothing else matters."
Robert Mueller, special counsel (2013)
"... because people have got to know whether or not their president is a crook."
Richard M .Nixon, Nov 17, 1973
"Fool me once, same on... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again."
George W. Bush
#18
Posted 25 May 2017 - 06:07 PM
Not with a Retro car, but Michael Iga's Group F wing car hot lapped at 3.127 tonight on my King.
I think the previous fast hot lap was mid 3.2s, by a number of racers.
Probably a tenth can be attributed to Mike Iga driving, did a quick switch today on one of my Group F cars and picked up .018.
The lack of any credible evidence is proof the conspiracy is working!
#19
Posted 25 May 2017 - 06:12 PM
He ran a 3.23 in the race.
I don't think he was ever quicker than about 3.29, before.
I did the 3.127, after the race, but really, only minimal "driving" was involved.
Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#20
Posted 25 May 2017 - 06:31 PM
did a quick switch today on one of my Group F cars and picked up .018.
In a 24 minute race, that's about 2-1/3 laps.
Not huge, but as they say, "Better than a kick in the ass."
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Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#21
Posted 25 May 2017 - 06:34 PM
You have any guides that will get me five laps in 24 minutes? If so send me 100. Hopefully I'll get mine in time to try at Holly Hill.
Anthony 'Tonyp' Przybylowicz
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#22
Posted 25 May 2017 - 07:24 PM
Tony,
They were sent Monday, First Class.
Tracking says they are currently in Orlando.
Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#23
Posted 25 May 2017 - 07:54 PM
Thanks.
Anthony 'Tonyp' Przybylowicz
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#24
Posted 25 May 2017 - 08:32 PM
I tried one at the Nats on my 1/32 Euro practice car and it made it as good as my race car. And that car has never been as good. It really allows you to drive harder into the corners. I would highly recommend.
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#25
Posted 26 May 2017 - 06:39 AM
Any chance of someone posting a few photos of the guide?
Steve King