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Posted 08 June 2017 - 06:00 AM

The 4th Annual “Rods & Rails” Vintage Drag Proxy

Event Date
• Race date is Nov. 25, 2017
• Registration closes Oct. 25, 2017

The Track
• Heads-up racing. It's about the cars.
• Track voltage at 14.7.
• Scale 1,000 ft. trap.
• Heavy glue shutdown.
• Track braid depth is .010".
• All cars make passes both lanes.

Contact Info:
Rules questions, discussion, car show, and updates.
“Rods & Rails” - Here and at dc-punk.freeforums.net/

Trackowner:

Bill Pinch
www.TheRaceway.biz
www.facebook.com/TheRaceway.biz/
1220 Sarno Road
Melbourne, FL 32935
(866) 845-4559 
(321) 600-4951 evening

Shipping:
Ship cars to: 
Race Pace Bodies
Attn: Bill Pinch
1351 Cibola Dr.
Melbourne, FL 32934
• Please provide shipper tracking number info to:
  Bill Pinch - bpinch1@bellsouth.net
• All shipping charges to and from the event and any requested return insurance/customs costs are on the racer. 
• Cars will be returned in original senders package. Please pack accordingly.
• Box plaques will be packed with the competition cars (only) for the return trip. 

Entry fee and Payment: 
- $10 entry fee for the first car. $7.50 for each car thereafter.
• To be paid by PayPal, CC, or cash to trackowner.
• To lock a car or cars position in the field a class is to be identified and entry fee paid no later than 3 days after registration closes. 
• Bill Pinch via PayPal with fee paid as family/friend (entrant pays PayPal fee) at bpinch1@bellsouth.net.

General Rules – all classes
• Modern graphite or Cox Vintage guide flags only to prevent ‘No Time’ displayed or ‘Can’t Stage’ issues. 

Note-Drop arm up-stops are suggested and recommended to avoid braid arcing.

• No wheelie bars.(except Exhibition Classes) .
• Bodies: Rods - reproduction or vintage - any hardbody model, vacuum pulled clear, styrene, or handcraft made (wood, tin, alum,    plastic, brass, etc.). 
• No modern Pro/Mod looking bodies regardless of year the concept was created from.

• $10 entry fee for the first car. $7.50 for each car thereafter. 
• Cars will be returned in original senders package. Please pack accordingly.
• Box plaque will be packed with the entries for the return trip. 

Classes 

“Stock 36D” 
• Any 1/24 scale 1955 to 1970 street car body that had a total production minimum of 500. 
• OE wheelwell radius open at 80%.min.
• Motor - stock unopened (can tabs) FT36D endbell-drive K&B BobCat or Royal BobCat motors only. Modern brushes allowed. Stock OEM springs only.
• Spec gear ratio – 3:1.
• Spec tires - .400” x 1” minimum, any wheel style. Front tires must touch and roll. No 'O' rings.

• Inline or sidewinder – factory or scratch chassis.
• No wheelie bars.
• Minimum ‘curb weight’ – 130 grams.

 

 

"Stock Eliminator" 
• 1/24th and 1/25th scale body only. Front tires must touch and roll. No 'O' rings.
• Any 1955 to 1970 car that had a total production minimum of 500.
• OE wheelwell radius and fender lip must be maintained at 80% min.
• Stock only Laminated Padlock or Open-Frame motors .
• Must have Tinted windows or interior w/driver,

 

“Rods”
• Will comprise bodied cars with a total wheelbase of 8” or less:
1. Sports and Modified Sports
2. Roadster and Modified Roadster
3. Gas 
4. Altered
5. Competition Coupe 
• Stock or modified laminated or open-frame motors (no neo or cobalt magnets).

“Rails”
• Stock or modified laminated or open-frame motors (no neo or cobalt magnets).
• Maximum wheelbase of 11”.

Exhibition Classes

• Low official E/T and High MPH Awards

'Unlimited'
Stock or modified padlock or open frame motor, neo magnets, wheelie bars, parachute, multi motors... etc. 
• Any listed production plates/frames must be the platform. Modifications to the original set-up is unrestricted. One-off custom machined or handmade parts are allowed. 

“Monster Motor”
Run what you brung.
Weight limit = 1.5 lbs.
Must have slot car type tires.

“Big 36D”
Run what you brung.
Mabuchi FT-36D set-ups only. 
Maximum wheelbase of 11”.

Motor List

36D Stock Class
• FT36D endbell-drive K&B BobCat or Royal BobCat motors only.

Laminated
• Gizi Winder w/BB
• Kemtron 503- X
• Kemtron 503-8
• Kemtron Bronco SR22
• Kemtron Mustang SR21
• Mini DV18D-8
• Mini DV18E
• Pittman DC65
• Pittman DC65-6
• Pittman DC-84
• Pittman DC-85
• Ram 857-6
• Ram DC850
• Russkitt 41
• Strombecker Destroyer 8473

Inline less axle bracket
• AristoCraft R6
• K&S MR 1 Super
• Mini Auto DH15
• Mini DH13A
• Mini DH13M
• Mini DH18
• Pittman DC63M
• Pittman DC70
• Revell RP66
• Revell RP77
• Strombecker Hustler
• Tradeship MX70
• Tradeship MX77
• Varney KM1

Inline with axle bracket
• Aristocraft 18
• Atlas AT206
• Atlas AT208
• Atlas AT306
• Atlas AT406
• AW Stingray
• Mini DH13M ?
• MRRC Super 3P
• Pittman 196A
• Pittman 196B
• Ram DC711
• Ram DC711 6volt
• Strombecker Avenger 8387
• Strombecker Scorcher 7 8389
• Strombecker Scuttler 8379
• Strombecker Super Charger 8528
• Strombecker Super Scuttler
• Tradeship MicroMotor MN30
• Tyco 901
• Tyco 902
• VIP Club

Sidewinder
• K&B Challanger 1502
• K&B Super Challanger 1504
• Mila Miglia Capolupo 501
• Pittman DC 704, 705, 706
• Ram DC 222
• Ram DC XL500
• Ram DC283
• Ram DC426A
• Strombecker Devastator 8474
• Tyco 952


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Posted 14 July 2017 - 11:31 PM

Where would a "RatRod" go in all this?


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Posted 15 July 2017 - 08:21 AM

I would imagine depending on how ratty the rat rod is :laugh2:

Won't be *stock* or *stock 36D* as they're stock bodyshells. Does it have a monster
or unlimited motor with neo magnets/rc arm custom machining?

Is it a rail?

If none of the above probably in the Rods classes, if not Altered I'd guess Gas ?

Will check with Bob :)

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:05 PM

“Rods”
• Will comprise bodied cars with a total wheelbase of 8” or less:
5. Competition Coupe 
• Stock or modified laminated or open-frame motors (no neo or cobalt magnets).

“Rails”

 

"Big 36D"

 

What are the minimum weights, tire rules for these?

Also body rules for Big 36D...


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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:29 PM



Hi Foamy :)

BIG36D is run what you brung ... that's it.

Tire rules
1. no silicones (any class)
2. .400 max Wide x 1.00" min Height in 36D Stock
3. Monster cars must have slot car tires (no R/C)

Weight rules:
1. 130 gram min in 36D Stock

2. 1.5 pound max in Monster


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 01:53 AM

RULE UPDATE: Monster Motor Class

 

Training wheels allowed in the Monster Motor class.

 

Training wheel or wheels (outriggers) can be used in lieu of wheelie wheels/bars for those wanting to run In-Line drive.

Limit - may not stick out more than 1/4" from the tire track width and must be in front of the rear wheels.


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 02:20 AM

A big Thank You to Greg for posting these rules in my absence. :thank_you2:


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 05:59 PM

I got a rule question today on the use of 'multi-gears'.

 

Valid question - Thought it over and .... a Rule needed to be clarified.

 

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Rule Update:

 

Multi-Gear, Belt drive, Chain drive or Direct drive set-ups are allowed in all classes with the exception of "Stock" and "Stock 36D"  classes.


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 06:01 PM

Please post questions in the Discussion thread or send me a PM. 


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Posted 21 July 2017 - 08:15 PM

Race Day Track and Tire Prep Procedure:

 

Clean is the goal for 'no bars cars' we call'em 'slot poppers'

 

1.-  Track will be cleaned of all traction compound from the bleach box to the finish line.

2. - Drivers will do a line lock style bleach box burn-out with lighter fluid then spin them up over the line to 'clean and heat'em up'. Top Fuel/ Funny Car style.  

3. - Drivers will wipe their lane out to ~ 1/4 track and by time the car is staged the track and tires are dry. 

4. - Drivers will 'cardboard' the tires on the return road trip to remove some of the brake goop. Front and rear tires on the Stock Classes as they must run on the front tires. (See above.)

 

For the Exhibition classes will run last. The car the owner can put a note in the box with the car if they want 'glue' or clean and we will accommodate.

 

I mentioned 'fire burnouts' to Bill P. and he was not completely opposed to the idea. 

No guarantee but it sure would make for some great highlight video.


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 06:38 PM

A rule question came up.

 

Q- Is a Cox NASCAR motor allowed in the BIG36D class?

 

A- Yes even though it is not a Mabuchi any modified FT- 36D size (flat) motor is allowed.


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Posted 28 July 2017 - 07:38 PM

Had a rule question come up:

 

Q - What size the front tires are for the "Stock 36D" cars?  Modern drag tires are 3/4".

 

A - 3/4" modern foam fronts are fine... just no 'o' rings. Actually look perfect when matched up with the same rear wheel style.

 

Setting 3/4 as the min. It sounds small but considering the rear spec is 1" it is still somewhat scale in relation to the rears.. 

 

3/4" = 18"

1" =  24"

 

A 5" dia. difference.

Real 1:1 Stock class cars are typically 25 to 27"" front and 30" rear.


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Posted 06 August 2017 - 12:01 AM

Had some rule questions come in:

 

1: Are we allowed to use 3/32 axle and gears ( 64 pitch )
YES
 

2: Ball bearings in axle allowed?
YES
 

3: Are "modern day" tires and rims allowed? The "old" stuff is getting really hard to find.
YES

 

4: Is there a limit as to number of cars a person can enter.
NO


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Posted 06 August 2017 - 06:12 PM

More questions bring more answers which brings more questions...LOL

 

Q - With the rule Q&A posted, ... the 3/32 axles & 64 pitch gears does that mean the modern 64 drag gears? All classes?

A - Yes, any vintage or modern 64p in any class.

 

Q - Plus the modern rims/sponge, i know we've already allowed modern rear sponge and plain rims (+ inserts) does this now include drag fronts, any rim any rubber except O rings? All classes?

A- Vintage rubber or modern foam fronts in Stock and Stock 36D.

    'O'rings allowed on all other classes.

     Vintage or Modern wheels with or without inserts allowed in all classes


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Posted 25 September 2017 - 10:07 AM

Registration closes Oct. 25, 2017

 

 

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:59 PM

Keep in mind when selecting tire compound this a no glue starting line and that the procedure is Naptha wet burnouts.

See above procedures.

 

We might light-up a dragster or two. :clapping: :diablo:


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 01:22 PM

Registration closes Oct. 25, 2017

 

 

 

Please be sure you are wired positive (+) is drivers right


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 09:24 AM

  :excl:  Today is the last day to sign up and lock a spot for your entry in the 4th Annual.

 

Rock and Roll :good:


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Posted 25 November 2017 - 07:38 PM

Winners and Awards

Check it out !!!

 

 

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Posted 25 November 2017 - 08:42 PM

The (former livestream) video is still up.

 

Slot car racing on 'TV' isn't much to rave about but there it is...

 

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 01:26 AM

:)

 

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 01:34 AM

  :good:  

 

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 07:40 PM

:shok: .........

 

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 08:05 PM

:o

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 08:29 PM

:) The BobCats

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