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#1 Danny Zona

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:03 PM

Hey, Swiss.

I bought my Defender from my home track The Race Place and P1. I always support local tracks. Every track I go to practice at I always buy parts from them.

I have bought off Pacific Slot Car Raceway (Jim Radford) on some harder to find parts. Maybe something he had in stock my home track couldn't get hold of that I needed right away. Next day air can be a lifesaver.

I'm getting ready to order the new Red Fox guides off you. The fact you sell them threaded is why I'm gonna buy off you and my track owner doesn't blame me. LOL.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:33 PM

Hi Danny,

When I was composing my post, I hadn't seen that Doc was planning to lock the thread.

 

I asked the question because I've experienced, and have heard of complaints, of the Mossetti being hard to get.

 

With the popular Red Fox guide, I'd estimate I've been able to get them from my dist., 7 out of 9 times.

 

With the Mossetti, it's more like 3 out of 15 times.

 

And with a $28.50 or $30 chassis, when it is available, it's harder to justify to commit to a big #, when the item is lasered, and could be easily changed, obsoleting your old stock.

 

With the RF guide, along with being 1/5th or 1/6th the price, being molded, with the commitment to expensive tooling, I don't think you'll see a new version of it, nearly as quickly, as a new version of the Mossetti, materialized.

 

It's a bit weird how threading the RF, has turned out to be a reason to buy them from me.

 

I guess I got lucky with having a tool where it can be done with zero drama.

 

A wing racer brought by a special threader, Wednesday night for me to try, that he touted as being real good.

 

I was real underwhelmed.

 

I did one with it, and quickly handed it back to him, because the feel of it wasn't nearly as "unspooky", as my old threader.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:43 PM

I'll throw .02 in on this thread since the other one got locked down (probably a good idea as it was turning personal) while I was driving back from Georgia and doing yard work.  

 

I can vouch that I have seen Danny spend at every raceway that ever hosted a race --- but he always gave his home track first shot.  

 

The same is true for the vast majority of the traveling racers in Florida.  Or at least it was true while we had SCR&H open in Jacksonville.  We made sure our parts wall was well-stocked!

 

 

Everyone ..... this can't become an "us vs. them" deal.  The hobby is too small for that. 

 

 

Series attendance waxes and wanes over the years as tracks open and close. And whether a track has an active flexi-based racing program impacts series attendance.  Losing ALL of the tracks on the West coast had a lot to do with the drop off.  Though, I'm not blind to the fact that the rules weren't pleasing to everyone --- for sure the FLA16D armature in NASCAR wasn't popular.  It wasn't my idea but I understood the reason behind it.

 

 

The stamped flexi rules from the various organizations really aren't that far apart.  But the rules won't impact attendance at all if tracks don't run their local program with the same rules.  That was one thing that we proved worked really, really well in Jacksonville.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:49 PM

Definitely understand your reasoning on the Mosseti.

I had decent luck threading the older RedFox guides. I did break a few off in my threader. Had to break out my torch. Lol

Plus I'm lazy. Probably the main reason. Haha.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:59 PM

I've definitely have my views, Rollin. Some good some not so good. Lol.
I have always gave in and still raced when I can.

It just bothered me when the Mosseti was considered to be a bad batch of chassis with out even looking at the chassi standard in the industry.

It could have been worded differently which could of kept the FUN factor in the discussion instead of what can be looked like a BIASED factor.

My only real problem. Everything else is no biggie really.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:12 PM

I had decent luck threading the older RedFox guides. I did break a few off in my threader. Had to break out my torch. Lol

It was a long time ago, but I broke one or 2 of the old ones, I'm 98% sure, with a different threader.

 

Maybe because the shaft is smaller, with the new one, it's pretty mindless.

 

I did them earlier this week, one evening, during an hour+ gossip session, with Ralph, and didn't snap any.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 06:27 PM

My  friend Eddie snapped one off .... and then he ound a magic elixir that lets his cutter thread the guide like butter.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 06:28 PM

I've definitely have my views, Rollin. Some good some not so good. Lol.
I have always gave in and still raced when I can.

It just bothered me when the Mosseti was considered to be a bad batch of chassis with out even looking at the chassi standard in the industry.

It could have been worded differently which could of kept the FUN factor in the discussion instead of what can be looked like a BIASED factor.

My only real problem. Everything else is no biggie really.

 

 

It's all good.  


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:35 PM

My  friend Eddie snapped one off .... and then he ound a magic elixir that lets his cutter thread the guide like butter.


Back in the old days, or now, with the new one?

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:55 PM

Back in the old days, or now, with the new one?

 

One of the new ones.  He got 11 of 12 threaded successfully. 

 

 

I handed mine to him to cut because I have a HORRIBLE track record of threading Red Fox guides regardless of the cutter.  And they're too expensive to ruin before they're ever on the car.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:33 AM

I like to buy parts at one track to race at another.   :ph34r:  

 

Of course, I only buy DZ approved $hit... :stinker:


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