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#1 Slotcar51

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 05:02 PM

Came across these from my childhood collection. Would like to know some info on them. Look to me like a Strombecker Motor

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 10:55 AM

Ah, this one! Yep, Strombecker Hemi motor, made in Japan, and the chassis is made in Japan, but we've never found a positive identification for the maker of this car. 

 

There should be one on the LASCM website, and previous threads on here, but can't remember what key search words to use! 

 

Maybe HIT or PI, something like that... 

 

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 11:27 PM

With some research it turn out to be as far as I can tell a 1/24 Gakken Ferrari 330 P - 2 with an export chassis.

 

Wonder how rare these are?


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 05:09 PM

Lewis, these cars (there were two models, the Ferrari 330P2 and a Lola T70 in medium blue), are still a mystery for all, because if there is a Japanese article showing the chassis and body as Gakken articles (the Ferrari body definitely is, but the Lola is another mystery as it does not surface in any other form), the amount of modifications necessary to fit both the Ferrari and Lola bodies on that aluminum chassis are far from convincing as of their actual manufacturer. Lots of handy work to precisely fit injected plastic body mounts hand glued inside the bodies, hardly mass production method...

The cars were likely marketed not by Gakken (as they do not appear in any of their period literature) but by an outfit named "Pi", and what these two letters stand for is still being debated even by Japanese enthusiasts. 
Here is actually what one would get when purchasing a "Pi" Lola or Ferrari:

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The Ferrari came in the same packaging, sorry I don't have a picture handy at this time.

But that is not all: an RTR Strombecker model of a Chaparral 2 was also offered sometimes in 1967, also in a similar clear-plastic pouch using the very same graphics.
Also, the SEGA Company appears to have been involved in this. Unbeknownst to most enthusiasts, SEGA was in 1967, an American company and not a Japanese one. SEGA stands for "Service Games" and began as a coin-operated game manufacturer for US servicemen abroad. In 1967, while based in Japan, it was owned by a Mr. Rosen and distributed slot car products including... Strombecker and "Pi" products. 

One will likely never know all the little details about the "Pi" cars and who actually made them, but little mysteries make life interesting. 





 



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Posted 25 June 2017 - 07:04 PM

Philippe,

Thanks for the reply, the Lola you pictured stirred a memory in this old brain. I seem to remember I bought two of these kits at a slot track and they were marked as Strombecker. ( But i could be wrong I was only 15 at the time so who knows  ) LOL. Oh well the mystery continues. Maybe someday I'll come across the boxes they came in.

 

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Posted 27 June 2017 - 06:39 PM

The Strombecker RTR models with a controller were the Chaparral 2 (white), Cheetah (blue), Ferrari 365P2 (red) and Lotus 30 (green). All 4 came in a similar vinyl pouch as the mysterious "Pi" Lola and Ferrari, but with a blue vinyl backing rather than black, and packaging was slightly larger.
Here is the Chaparral in its vinyl pouch:

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Compare the graphics on the packaging between the "Pi" Lola and the Strombecker Chaparral:

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This is what is intriguing, all these ties between all these companies...

Strombecker marketed for Olson Electronics, a kit with two cars, a Ford "J" and a Ferrari, also with controllers, in a corrugated box with only a shrink wrap over them.
Maybe this is what you recall?

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Posted 27 June 2017 - 07:36 PM

You know that kit look real familiar as my Dad did buy a lot of stuff from Olson back in the day. Love those 60's prices.

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