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#1 MSwiss

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Posted 26 June 2017 - 09:06 AM

With the reports of a few broken guide posts, I was working on this project before I left on vacation.

After hearing of two more posts breaking at BP this Saturday, I'm going to go ahead and announce it and start to take orders and will start working on them in approximately one week.

Pinned with 1mm/.039" wire, from the top of the post, to almost the bottom of the blade, I'm only adding $1.00 to the price.

Unthreaded - $6.50.
Threaded - $7.00.

Six (6) piece minimum on orders for guide flags only (can be a combination of pinned and unpinned).

Smaller quantities can be ordered with orders that have other items on it.

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Shown with the pin all the way through.
I did this on a few to confirm the pin was in the approximately middle of the blade.


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Posted 26 June 2017 - 10:51 AM

Put me down for a six-pack!


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Posted 26 June 2017 - 11:19 AM

Very nice, Mike – good upgrade!!


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Posted 26 June 2017 - 02:51 PM

That is very slick. Gonna have to try that myself since the ones I have... uhhhhhhh... didn't come from Chicagoland Raceway.


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Posted 26 June 2017 - 04:41 PM

I guess the good news is it seems to be happening only good hits on Gerding tracks.

BTW, I wonder if this is the first post ever on Slotblog from the top of Pike's Peak. LOL.

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Posted 26 June 2017 - 05:13 PM

Don't stand too close to the edge, it may be too tempting for Jackie! :D 


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Posted 26 June 2017 - 07:35 PM

I had a good question.

I will continue to boil them, like I did for the last 100, or so.
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Posted 27 June 2017 - 04:22 AM

Not much oxygen up there is there? It will make you goofy...  :wacko2:

 

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Posted 27 June 2017 - 01:09 PM

That is genius at work! Anxiously awaiting 



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Posted 27 June 2017 - 01:16 PM

Not genius, just bringing back a technique that has been used for quite a long time.

 

Consider the lowly guide flag...


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Posted 27 June 2017 - 01:56 PM

The difference is the RF doesn't come with the hole molded in.

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Posted 27 June 2017 - 02:00 PM

Yes, I realize that and you're using smaller wire than I did with the Parma guides, not that that should make any real difference.

 

In the computer world, Mike, what you're doing is called "value-added manufacturing." LOL...


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Posted 27 June 2017 - 02:31 PM

No, in the computer world he's "enhancing a feature."


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Posted 27 June 2017 - 07:51 PM

Huh? Illegal modification? LOL.

There is mention of the guide flag in our rules. Maximum blade length and thickness.
The RF obviously meets that criteria.

P: In the Can-Am rules, section C-6.

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Posted 27 June 2017 - 09:09 PM

Well... not in those areas! LOL..


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Posted 27 June 2017 - 09:51 PM

You need a drill press holder for your Dremel.  :) Home Depot has a Milescraft rotary tool drill press holder for less than $35.

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:19 AM

If you think you can get the hole in the middle of the post, and through the middle of the blade, every time, just using a drill press, I'll sell you some $5.50 guide shoes you can practice on. LOL.
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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:22 AM

Cheater, Sam,

You ever break a pinned guide?

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 10:45 AM

I don't know if this is legal in iRRA, but if you want to protect your guide you could add this little wire around the front of it like Bryan Warmack did!! I don't think he's had a problem since adding this!!

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:45 PM

Looks like the old Trinity "Flexi" stamped steel chassis idea. You hit the wall and bent the guard and you were done. But, at least the guide flag was ok.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:03 PM

Bryan might have installed it, but Philippe ran a wire flag protecter on his Retro cars three or four years ago. I run hardbody cars on a track with reduced voltage. We never break flags. :)


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:05 PM

Here in Texas, a guy named Larry Wilman was cutting chassis with a bumper like that out of saw blades back in the '70s  Heavy sleds with C-can open motors.

 

Not an exact quote, but the best I can remember:
 
"Bumpers on slot car chassis are there to protect you and damage the other guy."
 
Larry was a punch it and hope kind of guy, so his chassis
were quite effective against the opposition.  :D 


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:46 PM

You ever break a pinned guide?


Not due to a broken-off post...

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:48 PM

Brings to mind this cool chassis entered for the 2011 Dynamic Challenge Thingie proxy race.

 

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:50 PM

I built this chassis in about '90 or so.

 

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:59 PM

Looks like you were running an oval, Greg.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:03 PM

Yep.

 

That's the wildest chassis I ever built: three-gear sidewinder, trailing arm front suspension, and double-hinged reverse inside floppy pan. Raceway closed before it was fully developed, but there was a lot of promise...

 

Here's a pic of the bottom, just for jollies.

 

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:11 PM

That is some precision drilling, Mike.  :good:

 

Cheers,


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:24 PM

That's the wildest chassis I ever built: three-gear sidewinder, trailing arm front suspension, and double-hinged reverse inside floppy pan. Raceway closed before it was fully developed, but there was a lot of promise...

 

Very cool, Greg.

I've always tell people there is more to you than meets the eye. LOL.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 08:52 PM

We had problems way back with the old Red Fox guides. I started by getting rid of the front and rear points on the guide. When they take a direct hit or you drop it on those points it makes the guide snap easier. I round the front and rear points and file edges so they are smooth. File the leading edges all around also.

 

Never broke a guide (don't want to jinkx myself). But it works for me.

 

Here is a picture of the new and old Red Fox guides rounded off. Mike's pin is a great idea.

 

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 08:03 PM

I'm still on vacation but I just got confirmation I got a large shipment of guides back in.

I should be back to work on Monday and will start filling the orders for these ASAP.

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 01:18 PM

That is very slick. Gonna have to try that myself since the ones I have... uhhhhhhh... didn't come from Chicagoland Raceway.

Jim, do you think those new flags would be much help, if any, on BPR's flat track?


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 05:08 PM

Jim, do you think those new flags would be much help, if any, on BPR's flat track?

 

I have zero idea on that because I have not done head to head testing on any track. They do seem to work well enough and anecdotal evidence seems to be they are an improvement I just can't confirm that. There's a chance that I'll make it down for the flatster race on the 8th and if so, I'll have these on at least some of my cars.

 

As an aside, testing in such a finite range as a tenth is a bit problematic. A track can change that much one way or another in a short time. I can say that I have a wicked new anglewinder that has tested exceptionally well on the diabolical "Yellow Dragon" at FTH. That car has one of these guide flags on board. Don't know one way or t'other if that's the secret on this car but fer sure... the RF guide is staying on.


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 05:35 PM

My opinion.

You need the flag. Virtually everyone that has tried one says the performance is better.

I wouldn't worry about a pinned one until you start seeing breakage with them on that track.


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 05:35 PM

Good enough, Jim. Hope to see you on the 8th.


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 05:36 PM

You need the flag. Virtually everyone that has tried one says the performance is better.

 
Yep, you're probably right.


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 06:10 PM

I'd go with Mikes opinion because he (or his crew) has done the back to back testing that I have not.

 

The general opinions seem to be that the RF guide is faster because of less friction. I'm not really convinced that that is the reason but IAC... consensus is, they be better. For whatever the reason, I'd go with that!!!


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Posted 03 July 2017 - 03:26 PM

I got 4 new guides, 3 out of 4 car ran faster. From 4.3 to 4.27, from 4.17 to 4.15 from 4.15 to 4.07, then 4.33 to 4.35. I have crashed with these new guides and have not broken one yet.. But I have not crashed hard head on yet. One thing you must do with these new guides is leave the blades long. I raced Tuesday and my laps were not counting because the flag is longer you need a longer brade to make sure you trigger the lap counter.

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 06:04 PM

I got 4 new guides, 3 out of 4 car ran faster. From 4.3 to 4.27, from 4.17 to 4.15 from 4.15 to 4.07, then 4.33 to 4.35. I have crashed with these new guides and have not broken one yet.. But I have not crashed hard head on yet. One thing you must do with these new guides is leave the blades long. I raced Tuesday and my laps were not counting because the flag is longer you need a longer brade to make sure you trigger the lap counter.

i feel your pain on the counting issue...
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Posted 03 July 2017 - 07:09 PM

Pat what kid of lap counter trigger are you using?


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Posted 03 July 2017 - 08:19 PM

I had a good question.

I will continue to boil them, like I did for the last 100, or so.

As mentioned, while I'm not sure it will help, I don't think it could hurt, so I boiled all of the new batch that came in while I was on vacation.
 
Anyway, I'll tie myself to the drill press and get all the orders done, ASAP.

 

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 08:48 PM

I'm not sure Ed, I race at Port Jeff. It could be lap master. Wii B had the same problem and would have Retro Palooza running away. I'm guessing his braids were short also.

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 08:59 PM

I got four new guides, three out of four car ran faster. From 4.3 to 4.27, from 4.17 to 4.15 from 4.15 to 4.07, then 4.33 to 4.35. I have crashed with these new guides and have not broken one yet.. But I have not crashed hard head on yet.

 

One thing you must do with these new guides is leave the blades long. I raced Tuesday and my laps were not counting because the flag is longer you need a longer brade to make sure you trigger the lap counter.

 

The first post has leave the blades long so I was trying to figure out what that had to do with it. I should have realized it was braid. 


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Posted 03 July 2017 - 09:01 PM

I got four new guides, three out of four car ran faster. From 4.3 to 4.27, from 4.17 to 4.15 from 4.15 to 4.07, then 4.33 to 4.35. I have crashed with these new guides and have not broken one yet.. But I have not crashed hard head on yet.

 

One thing you must do with these new guides is leave the blades long. I raced Tuesday and my laps were not counting because the flag is longer you need a longer brade to make sure you trigger the lap counter.

 

I'm not sure, Ed. I race at Port Jeff. It could be lap master. Wiil B had the same problem and would have RetroPalooza running away. I'm guessing his braids were short also.


Ok, I now get your first post.
 
It's supposed to say "leave the braids long," not "leave the blades long."


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 12:02 AM

I made a pretty good dent on the tricky part, the drilling. The mindless stuff, like the pinning and threading, should go pretty quickly.

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 10:31 AM

"Got four guides and three out of four the car ran faster."

 

So, can you return the slow guide? Is there an exchange program where slow guides can go to be fixed? Maybe these are like sealed motors where there are fast ones and slow ones... you just don't know till you try out the guide. This adds a whole new layer of testing complexity! Now I have to go back and try all my guides on the same car to find the fastest one. Never can test too much.


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 11:16 AM

Maybe some take a longer break-in than others. :heat:


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 12:12 PM

I don't think Pat got them from me (which is fine).


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 01:02 PM

Started pinning them today.
 
That is going well, so I should be able to start shipping some out tomorrow.

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This view, with my drill press light in the background, better shows the internal pinning.


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Posted 10 July 2017 - 02:44 PM

I have quite a few orders for these, but I've been getting them out for a few days now.

 

Please feel free to post any feedback in this thread, positive or negative.

 

If a racer does break one, I would appreciate if they detail the severity of the wreck, if not in excruciating detail, at least on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being a whopper of a wreck.


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