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#1 MSwiss

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 10:51 AM

There has been some issues with snapping guide posts when installing some types of metal guide nuts on the new Red Fox guide.

Everyone has had good success with the nylon nuts.

Along with going on square, by the nature of the material, they hold their adjustment real well.

The only downside is that they are on the tall side.

I am offering ones that are shorter than a Koford metal nut.

They are trimmed from the approx. stock height of .137", to approx. .095".

$.98 each, retail.

They will offered to distributors and raceways at a standard discount.

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#2 Jason Holmes

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 11:06 AM

Mike,

 

I'm sure most of the guide posts that broke were not cut off, but rather left to stand tall for use in Retro.

 

But nice stuff.

 

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 11:58 AM

I left mine tall for Thursday night's LMP and I had a big hit that bent the tongue down. No problem for the guide.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:04 PM

Kudos for all the development work you are doing with this product (RF guide). Hopefully, the return justifies your time and efforts.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:15 PM

Thank, Jim.

On these nuts, it's probably something that I would of done, despite the RF guide.

While the first ones available will be these black ones, that will show the white from trimming, if there is any interest at all, I will have white ones cut, and offer different colors.

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:44 PM

Mike Swiss,

 

You are starting to amaze me more every day. Keep up the good work.

 

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 10:16 AM

I've been trying the nylon nuts just to see how they hold up.  If the new RF guides are somewhat brittle the nylon nut will give a little at impact where as the brass nuts don't.  It would be nice to know where the guides are breaking.  If you use a metal nut your pinning a section of the guide post between two metal pieces with little or no give.  If your stacking more than 2-3 washers that would seem to make the post vulnerable at its base.  So where did the break?  In my last Gaithersburg 1100 race my Indy car took such a hard hit that it bent the guide tongue down and yet the only damage to the guide flag was 2 grooves where it embedded into the rear of the other chassis, it was a PARMA guide flag.  I haven't raced these new RF guide flags yet but I will in August at Durham at the FNRS race.   


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 02:34 PM

I picked these up last night from my machinist. They look terrific.

For those already familiar with nylon nuts, they will know they are slightly different on each side.

My guy trimmed them on the side that I perceive as being harder to get them started on. So when installing, put the trimmed/white side up.

Also, to facilitate them getting started, bevel the top of the post, and afterwards, run your threader back over it.

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 10:53 AM

Mike,

 

You do know that there is only one "bearing" side on these nylon nuts, as on most nuts. It's the side that looks like a molded-in washer. 

 

Being in the Navy for 20 years and a diesel engineman I was taught that early in my career after installing several the wrong way. The bearing side of the nut provides a smooth surface for flat washers so an accurate torque number can be met and also a biting surface for lock washers.

 

Bearing side down is the only way to install these nuts.  


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 11:37 AM

Yes, the side opposite the molded in washer side, is the one that is trimmed.

 

If you look closely at the pic in post #8, where the nut is fully tightened, you can see that.


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 12:08 PM

I have gone to using these nylon nuts as body stoppers to prevent the front of the body from dragging in the faster portions of the track, like the high bank. They fit so tightly they can be adjusted and they are light enough I sometimes use two, one for the guide and one to make adjustments against the body. I trim down the nut then cone the top of the nut to match the top of the guide shaft. No sharp corners or edges just one smooth surface.


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 01:20 PM

That was pretty common practice on F1 cars, especially in the early days of Retro.

 

As before mentioned, yes, their ability to hold an adjustment, is their main attribute.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 08:35 PM

The 6 different colors now available on the trimmed nylon nuts.

All 98 cents each.

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Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990)
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Make checks out to Chicagoland Woodworking, Inc.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:25 AM

With Chicagoland steel guide-tongue, pinned & threaded Red Fox guide and guide nut.
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