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#1 SteveDee

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 01:21 PM

King track by Oglvie, longer and narrower than standard. Last used at Hudson Valley. I bought this with the idea of finding some space and doing a club type operation; didn't work out. Losing my storage space, so it' got to go.

 

Track needs restoration, includes new braid and paint (came with track, don't know much about it).

 

Here's the best part, if someone wants it, come get it, it's yours, free.

Track is located in Hamburg, Pa. My health has deteriorated to the point where I just can't do it any more, that plus the fact that after 50 plus years of slots I have lost almost all interest.

 

PM here and we'll exchange contact info.

 

Email:Stevedee3152@gmail.com.


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 03:52 PM

You haven't lost all interest. You still want to find a good home for this track and want nothing in return. That means a lot.


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 04:14 PM

Is this also the old R-Geo blue King?



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 04:44 PM

This track will fit in a 26 ft Uhaul, no problem. Trust me, I know.

 

I would be interested for spare sections only; will wait to see if someone wants the whole thing.

 

How is the deadman?


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 06:51 PM

Description by TonyP from Race Report, 7/13/08,
 
"The King at HV is a first generation non-American king and is pretty flat. Unlike Sonny's and the King at The Track in MD, this track drives more like a flat track especially in the deadman and turning on the straight. Both turns are pretty flat and require pinpoint brake zones and a good-handling car. It is an easy track to go fast on, but requires real driving skill to go fast for more than a couple of laps."
 
I clearly remember it had a very short finger and very deep braid recess.
 
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Posted 13 July 2017 - 07:20 PM

Is this a complete "needs to be assembled" package, or will you need other components to be able to make use of it?  Can you provide any recent pics?


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 08:04 PM

What is the footprint when it is assembled? I'm in Easton right outside of Allentown. May be interested in it for a private club track.


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:25 PM

Footprint is about 54' x 20'. Previous owner debraided and sanded surface. Needs restoration, new braid goes with track. There has been quite a bit of interest already. First to commit and/or get here takes it.


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 10:30 PM

Kind of looks like the old Brunswick, OH, track. Raceway was called Perfect Slot.

 

The store was narrow so I made it longer overall but with a short finger and my shop at the time was small so I had to finish the sidewalls on site.

 

It was the first King style track I ever built. I can't say for sure without a bigger picture though. 


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Posted 14 July 2017 - 12:40 AM

I think this track came from Massachusetts or Rhode Island. Jim Williams will know.


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Posted 14 July 2017 - 05:51 AM

It was in Rhode Island from roughly 2001 to 2007, before it went to HVR. This was the first road course style track I ever raced on and was my local track for five years before it closed. This track is without a doubt a driver's King, and a big part of why I am fairly adept at that style of King. If memory serves, it was a 155 foot track, and it drives more like an American-style track.

Whomever ends up with this track, it is a great place to hone the skills of new racers and a real pleasure for those who aren't as keen on racing the faster, punch-type Gerding Kings.


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Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:03 AM

This is the track when it was at HVR. Braid depth then was 45 thou. It was a great track for our series. RetroPalooza 2 and 4 were held on it.

 

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:25 AM

Noose, that is our current King track. We sold the old track in 2010, long before RetroPalooza 2 and 4.



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:30 AM

Hmm... right. Grabbed wrong pic. This is the old track.

 

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:36 AM

Prior to going to Rhode Island this track was in a store in the Crystal Mall in Waterford, CT.

The owner mentioned the track was the first King Steve Ogilvie had built.

The time frame would have been about 1997-99.


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Posted 14 July 2017 - 04:32 PM

Track is gone, thanks for all the interest.
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Posted 14 July 2017 - 06:10 PM

So who has it now? 


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Posted 16 July 2017 - 10:55 AM

It does look like the first King I built, a little wavy, during that time I was selling tracks cheap so I could learn as I go and I had not developed a lot of the methods that improved things.

 

But the timeframe mentioned was way off. I built my first King track in 1988.



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Posted 16 July 2017 - 05:12 PM

Steve would know about the year.

I remember Doug's (PJ) first Olgilvie was around '92 or so after his 'interesting' Hasse king.
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Posted 16 July 2017 - 05:39 PM

after his 'interesting' Hasse king.

 

The donut, IIRC, on yellow and purple, was possessed by the devil. LOL.


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Posted 16 July 2017 - 07:53 PM

after his 'interesting' Hasse king.

 

The donut, IIRC, on yellow and purple, was possessed by the devil. LOL.

 
I ran on the that track after it moved to CT. I remember the finger on black and purple were just evil.
 
Hasse's answer on what should be done to fix the track was... amusing.


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 08:37 AM

Yes, both black and purple had to have the turn completely wiped clean after the glue zone. Local knowledge! I won many a race there without sharing. 
 
Mike, you ran on the Olgilvie, a much better track. Doug had it turn-buckled to the floor to stop the flexing from G7 cars!!
 
First pic is the purple Hasse.
 
Second is the Olgilvie.
 
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Posted 17 July 2017 - 08:50 AM

I ran on the that track after it moved to CT.I  remember the finger on black and purple were just evil.

 
Lou Pirro had a Hasse king in Schenectady, NY, when he was running CASRA. Did the same track move from CT to NY later?


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 08:56 AM

I ran on the Hasse, probably in about 1987.

IIRC, the raceway had Islip in it's name.

Peter Crawley came in to race direct. Gary Gerding won the race. I didn't make the Main.

What really stung, was the car I lent Ted Matkowski, was not affected by all the track peculiarities, and he came in second in Semi-Pro, to Rich Liontonio, and would have won, if he didn't lose a magnet one heat. I'm 90% sure Ted had never raced an open car before.

The car had a Mazda body on it, which I seldom raced.


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 09:01 AM

"IIRC, the raceway had Islip in it's name."

 

Islip Miniature Speedway. Named after the 1/4 mile bullring that was in Islip, LI, NY.


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 09:23 AM

Thanks, Mike, I stand corrected. That was the race I missed because of family vacation. The store/track had moved out of Selden by then and was up in Pt. Jefferson Station, still called Islip Miniature Raceway. Name changed later to PJ raceway when Doug bought Russ out.
 
That race convinced Doug to have Olgilvie build a proper track.
 
Sam, the original name was Islip Miniature Raceway. Russell Schmidt was the original owner of IMS in the barn in East Islip. Doug and I used to work there. He started with an American orange and a six-lane squeeze oval that Doug ruled on with his modifieds.

Russ commissioned Hasse to build a custom-squeezed Hillclimb in the back room of the barn.
 
In '87, Russ and Doug partnered to put a second location in Selden, that Doug would manage/run. Hasse was called in to build a Cobra. I pleaded for weeks with them to have a King built, as it would bring in the real racers. Russ just wanted to rent track time. We convinced them both when Tony Castoro and I bought the mining car batteries (six 8Ds). Never forget hauling those bad boys out from Brooklyn.
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Posted 17 July 2017 - 09:59 AM

Lou Pirro had a Hasse king in Schenectady, NY, when he was running CASRA. Did the same track move from CT to NY later?

 
No, the Hasse King from PJ ended its life in CT.
 
To my knowledge, the King tracks Lou had:

 

First the "short" (at least it drove that way to me) King which had been Skinner's. If I remember correctly there was a lease arrangement and the track moved to another store (King upstairs LTD and drag strip downstairs), then to a private club.

 

The second was a new track built to fit the footprint of the first track. My memories of that track include a deadman that overlapped the main straight so far there was a tunnel on blue lane, and a red lane that was a driver's lane where inattention was penalized with low lap totals. I believe that was the track that died in the flood but I was away from racing by then.


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:56 AM

I just didn't know how many Hasse tracks there were in the Northeast. I only ran on Lou's King once at a rented location. I seem to recall it being set up at a later rental location, too. I never ran at the "King upstairs" and "LTD downstairs" location, but I knew several people who did.  
 
I was thinking Lou had gotten a different King for his location that was caught in the flood. I know he had Mossetti's roadcourse, I thought he got a newer King too, but maybe not.

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 12:53 PM

IIRC, quite a few of the raceways that popped up in NJ during the early '90s had Hasse tracks. I know there was a Purple Mile in Randolph, NJ. All the tracks at Zeppelins were Hasse, and they still have the green figure 8. Most of those raceways closed within a year or two of opening.
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Posted 17 July 2017 - 07:25 PM

Fishkill Raceway had a Hasse-built King. It was pinched when the raceway moved into a smaller store then the track wound up in Westchester Raceway. The donut had to be moved to make way for another town-required bathroom. Was an interesting track to drive after that modification!


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 07:53 PM

Hey, I liked the track in Westchester. If you set the car up right it was fun making time around that donut.

Whatever happened to that track?
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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:55 PM

Not sure, Bob. Frank had it in storage for a while and then sold it, I think, to a club.

Since Frank is no longer with us I guess we may never know for sure!

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 07:02 PM

Track is available again! Guy who committed to take it has backed out. I need to move it, so if no one can take in a timely manner, to the landfill it goes.

 

Please contact me immediately if you are interested. Stevedee3152@gmail.com or PM me here.


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Posted 26 July 2017 - 11:07 AM

Amigos,

 

I hope this track finds a forever home. I know its just wood, wires, and stuff like that. But what I read and heard about this track it has a lot of memories of fun times and past champions. Its probably a daunting task to get operational again but hopefully there is someone out there that might want to take on the challenge and save this poor girl from the dumpster! Just staying hopeful the poor girl...

 

Adios, Amigos.


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Posted 26 July 2017 - 04:28 PM

Thanks, Mike.


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 07:00 PM

Track is now gone. Loaded up and driven away about an hour ago, thankfully it didn't gone to the dump. Thanks to all who made inquiries.
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 07:13 PM

Does  the new owner want it to be a secret, or can you say where it is going?
 
PS: Thanks for making the effort to save it from the dump.
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:16 PM

From what I have heard, it's a couple of local guys. But I'll leave it up to them if they want to make it public.
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:20 PM

I think you just did. LOL.

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 05:50 AM

Well, I didn't name names...   :o
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Posted 01 August 2017 - 06:24 AM

Well, I didn't name names...


Well, can you give us it sounds like or rhymes with hints? :)
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Posted 01 August 2017 - 09:07 AM

LOL...


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