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#1 Rob Voska

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 11:08 AM

Great Lakes ISRA 2017-18 Schedule and Rules

Here is the new schedule for the upcoming season.

4 November MA

2 December CL

6 January  MA, Masters, regular GLISRA classes

3 February  CL (Super Bowl 4th) (Daytona 18th)

3 March MA

7 April CL

5 May     Not sure / Maybe a fun race Team Enduro / regular race / suggestions?


GL ISRA 2017 -18 Race Day Procedures
ISRA
USA GREAT LAKES REGION
RULES 2017-2018 SEASON



Changes for 2017-18

 

* Adding a "Spirit & Intent" rule to help stabilize things

 

* JRL stamped chassis removed

 

* JRL front axle

* B Production chassis updated

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RACE DAY PROCEDURES:

* The raceway will open at 7:30

* Please have your cars prepared on race day to assure your participation.

* Tech for the first race will open at 9:00 AM and close at 9:30 AM. The first race will begin immediately. At the completion of the first race, power will be turned on for 30 minutes. Race 2 tech will open immediately at the end of race 1 and close 30 minutes after the end of race.
1. At the beginning of the 30-minute tech period, a clock will be set in the tech area. Racers late for tech will be docked 5 laps for each full minute that they are late for tech. This penalty period will run until the race director has finished entering the racers names into the computer, at which time tech will close and the race will start without the delinquent racer or racers.
2. This procedure will be followed for all of the remaining races, except that there will be a lunch break with clearly announced duration.

ENTRY FEES and RACE ORDER:
JRL $10.00
Open 12 $10.00
1/24 Eurosport $10.00
B and Team (A) Production $10.00

* All proceeds go to the sponsoring raceway.
** Please note that in an effort to maintain affordable entry fees there are no raceway payouts.

CHAMPIONSHIP POINTS:
* The series class championships will be based on points accumulated in all of the races.
* There will be one drop race

Points Awarded:
1ST PLACE 50
2ND 40
3RD 35
4TH 30
5TH 25
6TH 20
7TH 15
8TH 12
9TH - ON 8

* Ties will be broken by the number of 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc finishes until the tie is broken. If still tied, the tie will be broken by the number of times that one participant beats the other in the class concerned.

RACE PROCEDURES:
* Lane assignment will be randomly selected.

* If possible, the number of drivers in each main will be equal.

* Mains will be 3 minutes per lane with 90 second intermissions.

* There will be no working on cars while the power is off. Use of tools, tech blocks, fans, etc is not permitted during intermissions. Braid may be straightened; braid juice and motor/axle lubrication is permitted. Tires may not be cleaned, nor may they be treated with any substance during intermissions. Braid changes, chassis straightening, body repair and body pin replacement are not permitted.

* Cars may be picked up during intermission only for lubrication, lane dot change, and braid straightening. This is to occur in the immediate proximity of the car's place on the track. The car may not be taken from the track to a pit area during intermission. A 10 lap penalty will be assessed for working on cars during the lane change intermission.

* Should a car already be in a pit area at the time of a lane change intermission, work on that car must be suspended for the entire time that the power is off. A 10 lap penalty will be assessed for failure to follow this.

MARSHALING:
* Drivers at the end of their main must marshal the next main, or whenever called upon.

* The number of marshals must be the same in each main.

* A 10 lap penalty will be given for missing marshaling.

TRACK CALLS:
* For an unmarshalable car (i.e. in the middle of the straight in front of the drivers).

* Under a bridge or on the floor in an inaccessible area.

* Becoming a rider.

* A warning will be given for the first illegal track call. A 5 lap penalty will be given for each successive illegal track call.

CLASSIFICATION:
* After each main, a driver's finishing position will be the result of the sum of the laps completed and the last lap sections.

* The number of laps made can only be a result of the lap counter. No correction is made for riders or missed counting due to deslots or the track braid.

* The race director must check the lap counting system if there is a sustained problem.

* If a problem with the lap counter occurs, then the race director must rerun the current segment. If the lap counter fails to operate, the raceway must provide a spotter to count laps.

GENERAL:

 

* We strive to run a fun, fair and affordable series. So far it has worked very well. We have tried to keep the rules brief and consistent. Anything falling into a gray area will need to be approved by a vote of the directors. Any items or issues that are in question should be brought to the attention of Rob Voska.
 

* Spirit & Intent; Slot racing is a sport / hobby designed for fun, and competition.  Trying to keep the rules simple, affordable an minimal.  Not everything can be included or foreseen and these rules are not "fool proof".  Therefore anything deemed an attempt to "beat the rules" can and will disqualify an entrant.  The purpose of rules are to provide a fair, stable and uniform set of rules, standards and procedures.  Anything not clearly spelled out does not make it legal.  Consult the board before doing anything outside the accepted given norm.

 

* If you would like to propose changes please submit them in writing with a description and reasoning behind it to the series director.

 

* Rules are locked for the entire season.  Unless something needs immediate attention. 

* Unsportsmanlike conduct is subject to a first warning, then to a 10 lap penalty.

* There must be only 1 driver per car and only 1 car per driver.

* Cars will be impounded at tech. Cars may not be touched by the drivers or pit crews until power comes on in warm-up.

* Lane change is the driver's responsibility. No compensation will be given for incorrect changing of lanes.

* Lane change cards are no longer required as the cars may no longer be taken from the track. A 1 lap penalty will be assessed for illegally advancing a car's forward progress during a lane change intermission.

* Per ISRA International rules, interference of any degree with another drivers car while returning your car to its lane, will result in a 10 lap penalty.

 

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GL ISRA 2017-18 1/24 Tech Specs
ISRA USA GREAT LAKES REGION
RULES 2017 - 2018 SEASON



TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS 1/24 SCALE:

* GENERAL:
** Car must maintain body and frame presented at tech. All other parts may be changed.

** Tech inspector has final decision on entry legality.

* WIDTH:
** Maximum width excluding pins and tape 3.269" (83mm).

* REAR TIRES:
** Maximum width 0.815" (20.7mm)

** The rubber portion of the tire contacting the track surface must be black.

* FRONT WHEELS:
** Sticker front wheels are legal for all classes.
*** Minimum diameter 0.500" (13mm)

** Exception: JRL as specified in the class rules

** If sticker fronts are not used, then front wheels must turn on their centers at 90 degrees to the track surface and have black rubber/plastic perimeter and be round.

** The loss of front wheel(s) during the course of a race will not be considered an infraction.

* REAR CLEARANCE:
** There is no minimum clearance.

** Gear must be level to or above the chassis.
*** This rule will be strictly enforced in order to protect the track surface.

* BODY:
** No air control devices are allowed.
*** Body bulletproofing that extends side dams will be considered air control.

** The body must cover the whole chassis including the rear axle and guide flag (unless otherwise specified in the class rules (see JRL)).
*** Exceptions: Ears at front of chassis

** Must be fixed to the chassis with only pins or original manufacturer body clips.

** Windows must be clear and all four wheels must be completely visible from the side.

** A number must be displayed in at least 3 different positions.
*** Numbers must be a minimum of 0.25" high and be decals, vinyl, or painted from the inside.

** All cars must contain a painted 3 dimensional driver with helmet, shoulders, arms, and steering wheel, mounted in the original cockpit position.
*** Interior must cover the entire cockpit opening.

** The body must not deviate from its original form as produced by the manufacturer.

** The body must be opaque when viewed from the top and sided except openings that represent actual openings on the real car.

** Wheel openings may be cut out +0.063" (i.e. 1/2" front wheels can have 9/16" opening).

* GEARS:
** Unrestricted

* REAR AXLES:
** For all classes except 1/24 EuroSport: Minimum diameter 3/32". Must be solid and magnetic.
** For 1/24 EuroSport: unrestricted.

 

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JRL (1/24 Open Wheel):

* CHASSIS:

** FX

** HNR H & R - (Horky & Radkovic)

** Mack JRL

** FX top suspension piece may be omitted.
** Pin tubes may be added and the chassis may be braced.
** Pan movement may be increased or restricted.

** Axle bearings are allowed.

** Front wheels must be at least 0.600" in diameter and at least 0.300" wide.

 

** 3/32" minimum front axle diameter, must be magnetic, must be 1 piece supporting both front wheels, on spring steel chassis.

** No other modifications will be allowed.

* BODY:
** Any 1/24 scale Indy/F1 body
** Chassis must be completely covered when viewed from above, except for the front wheel assembly and rear wheels, tires and gear.

* MOTOR:
** OPTION 1: C-CAN BASED MOTOR.
*** Koford
*** Viper
*** RJR
*** Mura
*** Proslot
*** Kamen
*** Kelley
*** Cahoza
*** BOW
*** B52

*** May notch cans for axle clearance.
*** May drill 1 small hole per side to ease magnet installation.
*** Single piece, full height C-can magnets.
*** May epoxy or super glue magnets in place.
*** May interchange manufacturer's parts
*** Aftermarket aluminum endbells are specifically legal.

*** 0.510" diameter minimum, 0.540" diameter maximum arms tagged
**** Super Wasp
**** Stinger
**** Hornet
**** Sportsman
**** Contender
**** Challenger
**** Competitor
*** Super Wasp, Stinger, Hornet: 60 turns of AWG#30
*** Sportsman, Contender, Challenger, Competitor: 55 turns of AWG#30

** OPTION 2: SUPER 16-D MOTORS.
*** Any 16D set-up.
*** Must use Super 16D magnets.
**** DM2 magnets are legal.

*** Minimum stack length 0.490".
*** 60 turns of AWG#28

** Along with option 1 & 2 the following are legal:
*** Any springs.
*** Shunt wire and spring insulation.
*** Ball bearings in motor allowed.

** OPTION 3: FK MOTORS
*** Any FK-type motor. Only sealed motors with stock arms are allowed.
*** Participants using FK motors will be scored separately.

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OPEN GROUP 12:

* CHASSIS:
** Unlimited
** Axle ball bearings are legal.

* BODY:
** All Open 12 bodies are open cockpit

** JK:
*** JK BMW V-12

** PARMA:
*** MG Lola EX 247
*** Dome

** RED FOX:
*** Caddy

* MOTOR:
** C-CAN BASED MOTOR.
*** Koford
*** Viper
*** RJR
*** Mura
*** Proslot
*** Kamen
*** Kelley
*** Cahoza
*** BOW
*** B52

*** May notch cans for axle clearance.
*** May drill 1 small hole per side to ease magnet installation.
*** Single piece, full height C-can magnets.
*** May epoxy or super glue magnets in place.
*** May interchange manufacturer's parts
*** Aftermarket aluminum endbells are specifically legal.

*** X-12 Arm 0.510" minimum 0.540" maximum diameter
*** 50 turns of AWG#29

*** Any springs.
*** Shunt wire and spring insulation.
*** Ball bearings in motor allowed.

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1/24 EUROSPORT:

* CHASSIS:
** Unrestricted

* BODY:
** Red Fox ISRA R10 (2017 - 18 last season allowed)

** RedFox (Brazil) Audi Concept 2015, ISRA legal body for 2016-18.

* MOTOR:
** No restrictions

* REAR WHEELS:
** 0.815" max width

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B-PRODUCTION:

* CHASSIS:
** PARMA:
*** Flexi 2 595

** CHAMPION:
*** TurboFlex #420

** JK:
*** Cheetah 11 (C and D-can versions, 2 or 3 piece, 0.25 or 0.30" centers and pans, aluminum pans)
*** Cheetah 21 2 piece
*** Cheetah X-25 (ISRA Spec) 2 piece
*** Cheetah Aeolos C43 2 piece

** MOSSETTI:
*** Patriot must be run with stock pan.  Will be illegal after the 2017/18 season.  ISRA has dropped them.

** GENERAL:
*** The chassis may not be cut and cannot be bent from its original shape.
**** Exceptions:
***** May grind motor bracket for gear clearance, but must leave outside portion of motor bracket.
***** Pan movement may be increased or restricted.
***** Front wheel towers may be trimmed.
***** Rear axle vertical location may be changed

*** Nothing may be added to the chassis if not mentioned in the list below:
**** Lead may be taped or glued to the chassis
**** Pin tubes may be added in the original body mounting holes and may be floating or fixed to the chassis.
**** Rear oilites may be soldered to the chassis.
**** Motor may be soldered to the chassis (screws are optional)
**** Chassis may be braced with no more than 3" of up to 0.062" piano wire
**** May add commercially available guide tongue reinforcement.
**** Tape may be applied.
**** Lead wire retainer may be used

* BODY:
** All B-Production bodies are closed cockpit.

** JK:
*** Audi R8C (7182)
*** Mercedes CLR (7183)

** RED FOX:
*** Audi R8 Coupe
*** Peugeot Coupe
*** Audi R18 Coupe

* MOTOR:
** OPTION 1: C-CAN BASED MOTOR.
*** Koford
*** Viper
*** RJR
*** Mura
*** Proslot
*** Kamen
*** Kelley
*** Cahoza
*** BOW
*** B52

*** May notch cans for axle clearance.
*** May drill 1 small hole per side to ease magnet installation.
*** Single piece, full height C-can magnets.
*** May epoxy or super glue magnets in place.
*** May interchange manufacturer's parts
*** Aftermarket aluminum endbells are specifically legal.

*** 0.510" diameter minimum 0.540" diameter maximum arms tagged
**** Super Wasp
**** Stinger
**** Hornet
**** Sportsman
**** Contender
**** Challenger
**** Competitor
*** Super Wasp, Stinger, Hornet: 60 turns of AWG#30
*** Sportsman, Contender, Challenger, Competitor: 55 turns of AWG#30

** OPTION 2: SUPER 16-D MOTORS.
*** Any 16D set-up.
*** Must use Super 16D magnets.
**** DM2 magnets are legal.

*** Minimum stack length 0.490".
*** 60 turns of AWG#28

** Along with option 1 & 2 the following are legal:
*** Any springs.
*** Shunt wire and spring insulation.
*** Ball bearings in motor allowed.

** Option 3: FK Motors.
*** Any FK type motor. Only sealed motors with stock arms are allowed.
*** Participants using FK motors will be scores separately.


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 10:28 AM

Thanks for posting Rob.


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 01:50 AM

BUMP


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:01 AM

Larry I have to ask........ how many years have you bee involved in slots?  I know it's way more than I have fingers & toes.......



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:38 AM

My first slot car was a Scalextric 1957 tin plale set - and we were running rail race cars and gas tether cars as well.  1955 three wheel sort of gocart as well.  


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 12:33 PM

60 years, then, Larry.

 

1955 three wheel sort of gocart's don't count. LOL


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 05:29 PM

Four wheel carts had not been invented yet, but the old man made a crome moly Rupp clone for "A" single motor class.  Raced on dirt and parking lots in the 'burbs.


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 10:27 PM

In B Production, what is the ratio of racers using C can motors vs. FK type motors?


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:49 PM

Not many use the FK.

Maybe just Larry Kelley.

You would think they would have a handling advantage, but I don't think they do, because you have to use something like a 10T pinion to get speed.

The C cans guys are running 7T pinions, so they spin more, and get more gyro effect.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 06:12 AM

Last year at Mid America on the Worlds track I ran a sealed 4002 nothing special and it ran very well.  My goal was to run top 3 to show that it could be done.  I ran a Patriot with aluminum pan.  It was fine in practice (slick track) but the track rubbered up to much after the 24ES race & the gutters were to stuck for the aluminum pan.  Always wanted to give it a try in JRL also.

 

If you want great racing just run ISRA A Production with .518 X12 motors.



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:12 PM

The PS/FK has the straight speed to keep up.  The 'right' tires and driver can drive them for laps as well.


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 04:42 PM

Rob thank you for posting this information and also for your leadership that you have given over the years for this series.

 

I have enjoyed the times that I have been able to race with GLISRA- a great bunch of racers that are more than willing to help someone get comfortable with these scale missiles.

 

I saw that Kevin made an e-mail plea for some help with the administrative side of GLISRA. If the family situation allows me to attend the 11/4 race, perhaps we can talk about what it is that is that is needed.


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 12:46 PM

Rob thank you for posting this information and also for your leadership that you have given over the years for this series.

 

I have enjoyed the times that I have been able to race with GLISRA- a great bunch of racers that are more than willing to help someone get comfortable with these scale missiles.

 

I saw that Kevin made an e-mail plea for some help with the administrative side of GLISRA. If the family situation allows me to attend the 11/4 race, perhaps we can talk about what it is that is that is needed.

Great to hear someone wants to step up MG, thank you!

 

You pretty much know the drill as you have done more than your share of race posting over the years.

 

These are the things I did this last year;

 

1) Post initial season info on FB and OWH. I had some help from Mike Mazur with FB, but I tried to maintain announcements and results there also.

 

2) Take podium pictures of the winning cars. Post to FB and OWH.

 

3) Post results on FB, and OWH with pictures.

 

4) Keep track records at CL on the Fiedler Flat for our classes.

Doing that at MA was a bit of a challenge running the different tracks per event and sometimes on the same day. Lack of a print out there was a problem too. I gave up trying to locate results to do this.

 

5) Keep season points and posts.

 

6) Work with Rob on decisions and communication to the group. :dash2: I left the race report to Rob, he is much more articulate than I.  :laugh2:

 

Pretty much standard stuff. Doesn't sound like much until you are the one doing it.


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 01:20 PM

Why not post them here as well?

 

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 01:49 PM

That was in my plan this year also Bill, but I will not be doing the posting any longer.

 

Maybe MG will share here if he decides to tackle the thankless job!!!!!


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 03:19 PM

Pretty much standard stuff. Doesn't sound like much until you are the one doing it.

 

To that I will say 'the devil is in the details', it's like balancing spinning plates in many ways.


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 12:02 PM

Next week is the first 2018 race.


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