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#1 Gator Bob

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 03:17 PM

The dreaded racers inspection line also known as "the Room of Doom" in some 'circles'.

 

What and when you need to post.

 

Minimum of three pictures. (Five for Stock 36D)
- One of chassis top, one chassis bottom, one Body on or about 3/4 angle shot (or Rail only).

- Close-up shot (macro) of both K&B motor tabs if you are entering the "Stock 36D" class

- More than minimum preferred, share your cars, be judged by your peers.

 

Description:
- Motor
- Chassis
- Tire sizes
- Body (or Rail)
- Car weight
- Class you are entering this car in.

 

Registration and the Inspection Line closes Oct. 25, 2017.

Posting of your car here for inspection is an official registration. 


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 04:31 PM

Room of Doom goers.

Keep in mind, If you're going to "put your foot on the scale" please take it off before taking pictures.  :clapping:

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or the nice big happy inspector man will scratch'n dent your hood with a sharp template .... "right here boy, you see that there spot, sump'in about it don't look right to me" .. while you put your hands in your pocket and thank him for that. :sarcastic_hand:

 

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 09:06 PM

There was no line so I got on it. :clapping:

 

Description:
- Motor >       Kemtron 503x
- Chassis >    Russkit

- Tire sizes > Front = 1 1/16th x .300.  Rear  1 1/4 x .400 
- Body >        1964 Impala SS

- Weight >      222.6 gr.  (2016 race trim)
- Class >        Vintage 'Stock Class'

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 11:43 AM

Don't let those rear tire widths hold up the line.

They are shown as 'Cheater Slicks" but were narrowed to .400 after these pictures were taken.

"other than that ... it looks ok to me". "sign it up".

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:56 AM

Here's my entry for "Big 36D."

 

Fun lil' rail machined by Mag Gizmo and available on eBay.

 

Powered by a box stock Cox 3500 Nascar.

 

I had trouble keeping the rear axle width reasonable, not enough room to fit in a set screw or taper lock spur gear with the rear wheels I chose to use. Ended up with a 1/8" solder on spur, a 50 tooth Tradeship steel gear! Matched it up to a Champion 14 tooth taper lock pinion (3.57:1). 

 

Up front is a  Classic 1/8" guide and matching Classic 12 gram weight.

 

Ball bearings on the rear axle, Pro-Track #232 rear tires ground down to 1.265"x.570", 1.0" front tires.

 

3.220" rear width, 9.125" OAL

 

Currently weighs in at 161 grams, may be more in race trim after a few test runs if the front end won't stay down.

 

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:36 PM

Nice  Pitt Man !

 

 

Looks 100%  and ready for take off. :good:


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 02:26 AM

Here is my 36d stocker entry.
Motor-K&B Royal Bobcat 36d
Chassis-Scratch built brass rod tube & flat.
Tires-Front 24.5mm × 5mm. Rears 1 3/8 ×.400.
Body-62 T-Bird Sports Roadster.
Car Weight-187 grams.
Class-36d Stock.
The gear is rubbing the tire in the photo but I have since added spacers to the engine mount moving the gear off the tire.
Thanks Tom.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 02:55 AM

Now for the altered Fiat.

Motor-Lindsay L-190
Chassis-Scratch built brass rod tube & flat.
Tires-K&B 1/32 dragster fronts.Rears-1 3/8 x .400 german sponge.
Body-Fiat Torpolino.
Weight-140 grams.
Class-Rods.
Car is painted with tamiya clear red over a gold base I will see if I can get it sign written by friend before I send it off if not I will put the kit decals on it also the car has no drop arm stop the drop arm rests on the chassis with the tires touching & the lead wires prevent the arm from dangling down more than an inch if picked up.
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 05:20 AM

Next in line.

Motor-Kemtron x-503 8v with a 6v factory arm.
Chassis-Kemtron motor brkts scratch built brass rod & tube ebay find.
Tires-fronts model car 27mm x 7mm.Rears Unique lemans german sponge slicks same as on the T-bird 30mm x 9mm.
Body-64 Dodge Polara 440.
Weight-252 grams.
Class-Rods or vintage stock.
This car has had a hard life since I first cobbled it together it's a bit bent up but seems to run ok.
Thanks Tom

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 05:38 AM

& The last car I'm entering.

Motor-Ram 850 with a 6 v arm lighten end plates & magnet lamination modified.
Chassis-Kemtron dragster chassis brass tube 8.5 to 9 in wheel base.
Tires-fronts vintage dragster 30mm x 4mm.Rear Dynamic 5 spoke 1 3/8 x 12mm.
Body-hand made .050 brass.
Weight-265 grams
Class-Rails.
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:58 PM

WTG Tom !

 

Looks good...

 

1- Check tire width on the T-Bird. It needs to be .400" at the contact patch for wide shoulder sidewall tires.

2- The Dodge is eligible to run in the Vintage Stock class.

 

Pictures are much better, Thanks.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:08 PM

Thanks Bob yeah the sizes for the T-birds tires were off memory they are the same tire as the 64 Dodge about 30mm in diameter & 9mm across the tread.
Thanks Tom

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 05:15 PM

Making a statement early on Tom, sure these are gonna perform great :D

The Fiat & rail are particularly sweet! Did you shape the laminations on the RAM motor?

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 06:13 PM

Thanks Paul yes I ground the lamms on the ram motor it was slightly modified & had a dead arm so I thought it was worth a try I did them similar to what Gene Husting did on his impossible car in the R & C mag late 65 early 66 I had the comm trued & magnet zapped so it has plenty of power now.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 12:44 PM

Description:
- Motor > K&B Royal BobCat
- Chassis > Gator Bob 4.5" brass and wire
- Tire sizes > Fr. .300x1", Rr .400x1 1/8"
- Body (or Rail) > Parma Cyclone
- Car weight > 136gr.
- Class you are entering this car in. > Stock 36D

 

Gear is - 16/48

 

 

 

 

One of chassis top,

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one chassis bottom,

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one Body on or about 3/4 angle shot (or Rail only).

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- Close-up shot (macro) of both K&B motor tabs if you are entering the "Stock 36D" class

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- More than minimum preferred, share your cars, be judged by your peers.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:46 PM

Here is my 36d stocker entry.
Motor-K&B Royal Bobcat 36d
Chassis-Scratch built brass rod tube & flat.
Tires-Front 24.5mm × 5mm. Rears 1 3/8 ×.400.
Body-62 T-Bird Sports Roadster.
Car Weight-187 grams.
Class-36d Stock.
The gear is rubbing the tire in the photo but I have since added spacers to the engine mount moving the gear off the tire.
Thanks Tom.

 

 

 

 

 

ummmmm, silver colored springs are not OEM Factory springs.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:03 PM

 

 silver colored springs are not OEM Factory springs.

 

Good call Foamy... I missed that.

 

I think the silver plated springs only came on Champion motors.

 

Tom, Do you time to change them out before shipping.?


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 04:33 PM

Hi guys I didn't realize Thanks those springs were sent separately with the motors when I bought them I do have rehco bobcat motor that had springs on it & a cox motor not the nascar with some goldy colored springs will those ones be alright.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 07:59 PM

Yes, the copper/goldish colored springs.

 

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It seems like there are a lot of 36D motors on ebay selling them less brushes and springs.

 

Maybe from the "pull out" days. :o

 

You would think they might put the springs back on. ^_^

 

Don't forget that modern brushes are allowed. I stuck with the original 'pull outs'. :good:


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:38 PM

Thanks Bob yeah I have seen alot of motors like that they might be pull outs or maybe the spring & brushes have been removed because they can sell for nearly the price of some of these motors.
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 12:54 AM

Tom, could you please post your gear set tooth count on the 36D Stock car.?

3:1 rule - Looks like 48 pitch 16/48 


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 01:21 AM

Yes Bob that is exactly what they are 48 p 48 t spur & 16 t pinion thanks.

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 05:35 PM

 Entering the  " Loose Caboose"  dragster.

 

Description:
- Motor -             Kemtron/KTM 4volt
- Chassis-          Speedway, K&S.
- Tire sizes -       1 1/8" R - 7/8 F
- Body (or Rail) - chopped Coupe
- Car weight -      171g
- Class you are entering this car in. - Rail

 
 
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Posted 22 October 2017 - 05:06 PM

Description:
- Motor > RussKit 33
- Chassis > 5" brass and wire
- Tire sizes > Fr. 3/32x1", Rr .500x1-1/4"
- Body (or Rail) > Dubro Coupe
- Car weight > 156.5g
- Class you are entering this car in. > Big 36D

 

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 05:30 PM

Motor > Pittman DC-84-6
- Chassis > RussKit
- Tire sizes > Fr. 1-1/8"x1", Rr .450x1-1/4"
- Body (or Rail) > Dubro Coupe
- Car weight > 210g

​-Wheel Base> 7-3/4"
- Class you are entering this car in. > Rods

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:01 PM

Motor > RAM Based / Custom
- Chassis >Magnesium Rails, Aluminum Brackets 
- Tire sizes > Fr. 1/8 x 1", Rr . .450 x 1-3/8"
- Body (or Rail) >Polished Aluminum
- Car weight > 184g

- Wheel Base 9"
- Class you are entering this car in. > Rails

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:29 PM

- Motor > Pittman DC-65 Based / Custom with Neo Magnets
- Chassis >Aluminum
- Tire sizes > Fr. 1/8 x 1", Rr . .500 x 1-1/8"
- Body (or Rail) >Polished Aluminum
- Car weight > 123g

- Wheel Base 6-5/8"
- Class you are entering this car in. > Unlimited

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 07:06 PM

Wow! Quite the lineup for this year Bill
:D That big36D Dubro coupe is sweet :heart:

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 08:21 PM

Great Cars, Bill

 

Good to see the '8 Shooter' coming back. :good:


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:27 PM

Resin Fiat Topolino
Scratch brass tube chassis
Kemtron X503 rewind motor
Tires... way over 1" :laugh2:
Weight?? A smidge more than when it raced in the 2nd annual (no scales)

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:32 PM

For Miss E

Tamiya Fiat 500 "Purple Minion"

Kemtron Hotrod brass chassis kit
Pittman dc65
Rears German sponge donated by the Inch Pincher

Weight unknown, similar to when it raced in the 2nd Annual (rebalance for more bite)
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:53 PM

Miss E

Resin '32 Chopped
Scratch hybrid, brass & Dynamic tongue
Strombecker 85 clone with 3v RAM arm
Tires 1.316"rear fronts 1 1/8
Unknown weight (little less than when it ran in 2nd Annual)
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 07:26 PM

OK.

 

 

First car:

Motor: Strombecker Destroyer

Chassis: Mark Adams

Tires: 1.125 / .935

Weight: 192.4 g may vary by race day.

Class: Rail.

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 07:55 PM

Second car:

Motor: Champion 36d

Chassis: Tak Hosono

Tires: 1.170 / .875

Weight: 151.8 g may vary by race day.

Class: Big 36d.

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 07:56 PM

:good:  More cool cars ....  :clapping: 


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 07:57 PM

Third car:

Motor: Pittman 196

Chassis: Wire

Tires: 1.000 / .550

Weight: 85.5 g may vary by race day.

Class: Rail.

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 11:47 PM

Nice lightweight rail !


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:48 AM

Thanks, I bet that car is 20 years old. Been in a box forever. Still hoping to maybe get a Monster working in time, but not sure yet.


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 01:23 PM

Deadline is close. I will enter a Monster also hoping that I can get it working before shipping. Pics to follow.


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 02:35 PM

Never enough time...

I figure that there is a scramble to get cars ready.... believe me.

 

To be eligible for awards a commitment of locking in to a class must be made by tomorrow 10/25.   

Awards will be ordered off the entry list as posted here and on DC-Punk.


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 04:48 PM

So my fourth car is:

Motor: Pittman 9003 style? Sorta

Chassis: Brass

Tires: big

Weight: 317.4 g

Class: Monster.

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 04:49 PM

One day left, so here's my heaps...

 

Starting the party with this "Stock 36-D" machine...Description:
- Motor - spec K&B
- Chassis - part JDS, part scratch slip-joint style
- Tire sizes - JDS Cragar Rear 1.060 x .400, Front combo of JDS Cragar fronts and JDS Pro Star Rears with home brew tire
- Body (or Rail) - O/S '69 Charger
- Car weight -130
- Class you are entering this car in. - Stock 36-D

 

 

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 04:57 PM

...aaaaaand here's my entry for the Rods class, altered, street roadster, whatever.

 

- Motor - Pittman 65 - 6 volt. Ground field pieces, ball bearings, custom endplate that uses 36-D brushes.
- Chassis - Slip-joint style with extra cheesy motor mounts
- Tire sizes - JDS 7 hole Convo 1.060 x .300, JDS Centerline fronts
- Body (or Rail) - JDS Altered
- Car weight - 105
- Class you are entering this car in. - Rods

 

 

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 05:09 PM

...and now for the Big Dog on the block...

 

- Motor - Mabuchi 36-D can and endbell, Champion Arco 33 magnets, proper 2mm ball bearings, Parma D-Can endbell hardware, steal mounting plate to hold bearing and have a screw mount.

Armature rewound, epoxied, ground stacks by the late Monty Ohren 7 or 8 years ago. I was able to grind the shafts to 2mm so to use good bearings and normal pinion gears
- Chassis - WRP narrow Pro Inline with brass motor bracket. Stainless tube rails, .083 standard wall.
- Tire sizes - JDS anodized Softcore rears 1.093 x .500. Fronts are Proslot 1/2" rubber tires.
- Body (or Rail) - JDS Daytona Funny Car
- Car weight - 124
- Class you are entering this car in. - Big 36-D

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 05:20 PM

Pics from my fone are really less than swell, but it's what I have.

 

A first for me, I actually track tested Proxy cars! Something I haven't been able to do before(lazy bastard!).

 

Testing at Buena Park Raceway gave me ...

Stock 36-D gave me low 1.500's at a blistering 30 MPH (yawn).

The altered gave me a best of 1.411, but doesn't repeat that, but runs low 1.420's.

The Daytona...well keep spectators away from the track as it has SPECTACULARLY CRASHED, TWICE! Goes like 70MPH though, so....


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 06:46 PM

I told you guys Foamy would pull a squirrel out of his hat. 


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:39 PM

Description: 1966 Chevy Nova
Motor - K&B 36D Royal Bob Cat
Chassis - Aluminum
Tires - Fr. 1/4" x 1"  R. .400 x 1"

Gear Ratio - 11 - 33  3:00 to 1

Body - AMT 1/25 Model
Weight - 134g
Class - Stock 36D 

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:54 PM

Quite a nice field of cars it's a pity Foamy's photos aren't better I would like a better look at that 65 to see how he did that endplate brush assembly I recently picked one up on ebay with the lamms ground similar & his 70 mph funny should be cool it will also be intresting to see how Boxerdog's jr fueler goes with the 196 & that light weight.
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Posted 24 October 2017 - 09:36 PM

Great cars coming in.  Everyone of them has personality all their own.

 

36D cars are going to be a show down / hoe down hit the glue whoa down.


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 09:42 PM

Pics from my fone are really less than swell, but it's what I have.

 

A first for me, I actually track tested Proxy cars! Something I haven't been able to do before(lazy bastard!).

 

Testing at Buena Park Raceway gave me ...

Stock 36-D gave me low 1.500's at a blistering 30 MPH (yawn).

The altered gave me a best of 1.411, but doesn't repeat that, but runs low 1.420's.

The Daytona...well keep spectators away from the track as it has SPECTACULARLY CRASHED, TWICE! Goes like 70MPH though, so....

 

Foamy, are these a full 1320?

What voltage at BPR? 

Clean track or glued?

 

Yup, Sending proxy cars without testing is ... nail biting. Sending them tested is kind of a shot in the dark not ever seeing the track they run on. Drag proxy not so much.


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