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#1 blue&orange

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 05:03 PM

Good things come to those who wait.  As I hinted at in an earlier post, the Altec 220 now is being rebuilt.  Braid was stripped last night.  Track half sanded, power taps removed and first Bondo repairs today.  Hope to finish sanding and remove bridge section tomorrow, route during the week, and paint by next weekend.  Well, ya gotta have a plan.  All volunteer under Ralph as our chief -- many hands make light work.  Now if I can just talk them into getting the old billiard counter out of storage!  Stay tuned.


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Posted 19 August 2017 - 04:05 PM

Last night (Friday) final sanding and cleaning.  This morning fresh epoxy paint - 4 guys, 25 minutes.  Braid actually was here but the company sent the wrong braid, so correct braid is ordered.  Lane striping and new power taps will happen this week.

 

A 50-year-old giant is waking from its sleep.


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Posted 19 August 2017 - 04:54 PM

Nice to see this survivor getting a makeover


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Posted 19 August 2017 - 05:26 PM

Some rather sharp criticism of the raceway was posted here previously. With this current refurb. many of the gripes should be resolved. Big Ups to all the volunteers helping to restore the Altec 220'. :good:

http://slotblog.net/...-sad-condition/

 

Anybody been to Buzz-A-Rama lately?


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Posted 19 August 2017 - 05:45 PM

Isn't Buzzi seasonally closed presently?


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Posted 19 August 2017 - 06:25 PM

Here is some pictures of before and after. Track is going to be nice and very smooth. It will be a blast to race on.45357.jpeg 45360.jpeg
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Posted 20 August 2017 - 09:47 AM

And it's a challenging track, because except for the big bank, it's totally flat.  I have great memories of that track because in 1990 it was on this track that I did my first slot car race since 1973.


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Posted 20 August 2017 - 09:55 AM

Not as challenging as the Nuvolari


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Posted 20 August 2017 - 10:01 AM

When you guys are done I will have to make a trip.


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 05:52 AM

Do cars launch very often in that high bank?

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 01:43 PM

No
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Posted 21 August 2017 - 01:59 PM

Not as challenging as the Nuvolari

Probably not....:-)


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 02:11 PM

However the Nuvolari is now in a land fill somewhere. But those 6 inch radius 180 degree corners were a trip. RIP Tazio.

 

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 02:19 PM

Not as challenging as the Nuvolari

 

While the turns look to be a larger radius than the Nuvolari they also look to be a constant radius which would provide a challenge.

 

I missed racing on this track when it was in the Keystone USRA in the mid 90's.


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 03:25 PM

 

While the turns look to be a larger radius than the Nuvolari they also look to be a constant radius which would provide a challenge.

 

I missed racing on this track when it was in the Keystone USRA in the mid 90's.

My first race back into the hobby was on that track in 1990 with the Keystone USRA.  But I was out of it by 93 when they added more classes and made the races into two-day events.


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 05:42 PM

Blair's pics don't do that bank justice -- standing inside of it was awesome.  I would say 50 degree or more.  We ran vintage cars on this track last spring -- Cox, Manta Rays, etc. and nothing launched.  LMP's stick like glue and also go around those flat turns really well.


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 05:47 PM

Looks much like the track at Monaco in Atlanta Ga back in the late 60s. I loved that track.

 

Sure would like to put some laps on this one some day. 


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 07:21 PM

What is the planned race program when  the track goes live? Group F and LMP only?


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Posted 22 August 2017 - 12:45 PM

Right now lmp on the big track and group f plus on the king on alternating weeks.
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Posted 03 September 2017 - 11:00 AM

Thanks to all the folks at Retro East last week who had encouraging words about our Altec rebuild.  As of last night (Saturday 9/2) all lanes striped, all sections numbered, and four lanes braided to the bridge.  We need to braid all lanes under the bridge and up to it before we can drop it back in place.  At least one more lane should be braided today, and next weekend should finish off the braid.  Then fine tuning, and we should be ready for our first LMP race on 9/30.  When you think of it, a rebuild in five volunteer weekends is pretty awesome.


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Posted 22 September 2017 - 09:15 PM

Almost there!  Track is running, needs some tuning and tweaking.  Brian and I ran test laps tonight, mostly to clean the lanes and braid with some beater cars, but couldn't resist getting out the better cars near the end. With track still needing final cleaning and no glue yet our LMP's were within .3 seconds of times on the old surface.  Also ran my retro Can-Am.  Still in set-up from last Retro East race, so had to tip-toe a little; used Kelly Euro's on no-glue track, got down to 7.35.  I'm guessing a good .5 seconds will come off with glue.

 

The track is a blast to drive.  Smooth, with room to relax between corners, yet challenging with all the flat turns.  First LMP race is scheduled for Sept. 30.  After that, think of stopping by and giving it a try.


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:34 PM

First race will be this Saturday 9/30. Lmp will be run on the altec. For more info pm me here on slotblog or you can message me on Facebook also.
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Posted 31 October 2017 - 05:25 PM

Wish I was a bit closer, would like to run that track

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 11:46 PM

Hi guys,

I stopped in with my son kipton (we both have red hair) on Saturday to check out the race. I picked up an lmp setup and have been coming up almost everyday, the tracks are really nice!

Is it cool if I stop up to the races and ask some dumb questions again this Saturday?

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 08:08 AM

Rob, there are no dumb questions, only dumb answers. :)


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Posted 06 November 2017 - 11:59 PM

Hey guys, sorry I missed you on Saturday, some family stuff popped up that I has to take care of.

I did get a chance to race on the small track at qmart a couple times though, and I was at T&L tonight for the lvrcs meeting.

2 questions: is there a general thread for T&L or about the races, since this thread is more about the track rebuild?

Second, can someone point me to general info on gearing? I've been searching and I find a bunch about specific scenarios but nothing generalized in terms of how it effects your setup.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 03:19 AM

Rob,

Ask us your specific questions about gearing. Track, voltage, body type, tire size, and race duration are all helpful.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 10:47 PM

Rob - If you are on Facebook, search for "Trains and Lanes Hobbies - Slot Car Racing."  Jay posts race schedules and results as well as other stuff on a regular basis.

 

I believe track voltage on KIng and Altec is 13.2.  King is batteries; Altec is power supply.

 

Since it looks like you want to race LMP, here are some basics.  Gears are 64 pitch -- pinion is mandated 11t -- most successful spur seems to be 36t.  Tires are .700 or .720, depending on your axle setup.  Some people are running JK PP's (premiums), some are running PPT's (treated).  Bodies -- thankfully so far it is not a spec series.  Some people are running Lola's (JK, Red Fox and Hirschmann), some are running Audi R10's or R18's, and there are others as well -- I think Jay is going back to his Bentley.  Again, Jay posts pics of the cars every race. 

 

Come on out, plan on starting slow and learning, and you should have fun.  Up coming LMP races 11/11 and 11/18 @4:00 pm.  And if you want to see some stupid-fast racing come watch the Penn-Jersey racers on 11/19.


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Posted 08 November 2017 - 02:04 AM

So the reason I ask about gearing is so that I can understand basics and start playing with gearing in different track situations. I have been driving the king or the junk track at qmart quite a bit. The qmart track is small and low voltage, can't be more than 11v.

I'm assuming the handling track would benefit from gearing that pushes acceleratio over top end.

Do I increase or decrease gear ratio for faster acceleration?

Right now I have the 16d motor with adjustable timing. I saw on the lmp rules that you have to run the proslot motor?

I'll be at T&L tomorrow morning. I'll pick up some different spurs and an 11t pinion and see what works.

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 02:16 AM

Blue & orange thanks for the info dump! I'm just trying to keep from coming off the lane right now and working my way up to more speed later.

I want to stop up and check it out again, I was there for a bit 2 Saturdays ago. I have the 16d motor with adjustable timing, do I absolutely need the proslot motor to race?

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 07:34 PM

Hi guys, I hope everyone is well. I've had the opportunity to drive quite a bit both at T&L and qmart lately, which has been awesome.

That being said I feel like I can be consistent enough not to piss anyone off (although I'll be a lot slower) and start joining in for lmp class.

So to do this I'll need to switch out the motor and entire rear (gears, axle, tires, etc) does anyone have a rear axle setup that they would be willing to part with?

I could pay or trade with airbrush work.


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 01:51 PM

Thanks for preserving this priceless piece of slotcar history.!


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