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#1 cellorhythm

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 12:25 AM

I have a large eight-lane track I picked up a few years ago and am realizing I don't have time to put it back together. Some track sections are damaged from storage but the track could be restored. It was formerly the Hagginwood Raceway in Sacramento. I will entertain any offers!

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 12:49 AM

Point of interest.

I seem to remember the Hagginwood Red Imperial was pretty unique in that it had a round donut.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:53 AM

Wow, a round donut? That takes all the fun and skill out of it! Being able to drive the 'D' donut was an art. We had one for many years on Long Island at Bellmore Raceway. That's where Spencer Hess honed his skills on.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 08:39 AM

... and the humps down the straight. Lordy, lordy the humps down the straight!!
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:21 AM

Red was basically a King with a D-shaped donut, correct?
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:31 AM

Correct.

 

IIRC, the Bank might of been different(tighter?)

 

Also, it is described as 150'.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:35 AM

That red was flatter than most Kings. IIRC, that track had the original humps but they had been taken out. Main straight was a little lumpy but launching not much problem. It did have very deep braid at the time that I ran on it so that would be a further aspect to the project.
 
I hope that someone gets it who will take the time to restore it properly. It would probably not be a bolt together and run it sort of thing but if done well, it could be a gem of a track.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:55 AM

Mat

 

The Red was much steeper banked than the King as well.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:11 AM

No, just the opposite. They were a bit shallower than a blue.
 
I ran on this track once in I believe '83. Us NW boys showed up with the first strut steel chassis and ripped. We practiced all alone at the shop then left for dinner. When we came back, the word was out that we were extremely fast. Crash, Buef, Hand Grenade, etc., were all over our cars.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 11:02 AM

Here's what a new red looked like, in an official AMRC photo.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 11:23 AM

All the reds I raced on had worse launch ramps on the straight than a blue King.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 12:39 PM

Yup, called them "vertical turns." 

Plus bigger ramps coming out of finger and bank. Hagginwood was the only round donut red I ever saw.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 12:41 PM

Back in the day champion ran a bunch of Arco races on these tracks. They would come in early and make sure there was tons of power, so in the race if you did not blow up you splattered your car on the wall in the bank. Fun days.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:18 PM

These type of tracks took the motor out of the race and made it a real driver's track. And, yes, they were good times...
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:22 PM

Red was basically a King with a D-shaped donut, correct?

 
Some corners were sharper, such as the donut and bank... otherwise they're the same shape... the driving rhythm is very different as you had to drive the straightaway to keep from launching and the donut is much more challenging, too...


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:52 PM

If the humps in the straightaway are smoothed out enough to prevent launching the red is a great track with the D donut. We had one as a club track in Riverdale, GA, years ago.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 04:50 PM

I raced on a refurbished one by Hasse down near St. Louis, Mo. back in the '90s. Hasse took the humps in the straight out and made a round donut. It was pretty fast but the bank was a smaller radius than a King so it took some driving to get through the bank. 

 

The last I heard that track went to Arkansas. Hasse painted the surface tan.



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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:53 PM

I hope someone will save this track from the dumpster. I don't know of any that are set up and running. Rich Attee in Michigan has one, but only part of it is set up. A rare find.


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 05:57 AM

The red we raced on in the '60s in Queens had a great launch pad going into the bank. There was a pool table on the other side of the building. If you made it onto the pool table your car was a rocket!! :)


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:13 AM

I remember racing in Sac during that era too, and the first "strut cars."

I also seem to remember that the carnage was truly amazing when cars would launch either at the bank or the deadman, or even trying to survive the speed bumps at the beginning of the straight.

IIRC, I have never seen that much glue on any track in my life, they cleaned it with a putty knife. I'm not sure I ever survived a race up there...
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 08:16 PM

Only time I ever raced on that track was in their fairly short-lived last location. Don't remember that launching was much of a problem and the real heavy glue era was over by then but the deeeeeep braid was a pain to set up for. Cig smoke was an unpleasant feature of the place as well.


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 08:47 PM

 Cig smoke was an unpleasant feature of the place as well.

 

There was a big race, every year, out east of me, where that was always a problem.

 

At some point, after moving to a different town, the owner banned smoking (not sure if it was a town ordinance) except for himself and his counter workers.

 

It was better. LOL.

 

Early in my pro career, at Jerry Kulich's Grand Raceway, I remember Mike "Crude" Stephens trying to smoke at the panel, next to me, during the race.

 

I called a "track," and had the Jerry put a stop to it.


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Posted 23 September 2017 - 11:36 AM

Just a touch off topic here, but this is my memory of Cukras at every race, back in the day... (note cigarette).

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There was a big race, every year, out east of me, where that was always a problem.

 

At some point, after moving to a different town, the owner banned smoking (not sure if it was a town ordinance) except for himself and his counter workers.

 

It was better. LOL.

 

Early in my pro career, at Jerry Kulich's Grand Raceway, I remember Mike "Crude" Stephens trying to smoke at the panel, next to me, during the race.

 

I called a "track," and had the Jerry put a stop to it.


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Posted 23 September 2017 - 03:15 PM

I raced on the Hagginwood track in the mid to late -70s if I recall correctly. The bump in the lead on was brutal! When the car went over it you'd hear two slaps from the car bottoming out.   

 

Foamy and I raced G7 that day, Foam didn't make the move up to the A Main and was my pit man for the day. This was my first Pro race and the track, and myself was very hard on the car.  

 

I broke the back of the car every heat but Dennis kept it together for me to take the win. After each heat Foam would yell out at me, "Quit breaking the car"!  

 

I met Beuf, Sherry, Dave Donnelly, Fred Hood, and a few other NorCal racers that day.


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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:53 PM

I grew up in Sacto and on that track. It's where I first met Beuff. Please don't let this track go to the trash bin!


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