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#1 Phil Hackett

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 04:01 PM

I'm posting this not as a political post but it shows the possibilities when people are motivated to be creative...

 

I was most interested in the first few minutes because aluminum can alloy is not a casting alloy and certainly doesn't machine pretty... the ending is about the same as any other AR build... but this guy shoots the resulting gun...

 

If this post is pulled, I understand. I thought I'd share some crafting to get a result...

 


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 04:44 PM

I have no problem with it, Phil.


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 05:15 PM

Awesome.


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 05:34 PM

Crafting stuff... yeah, right!!!

 

That kind of post is likely to get you assigned your very own, personal, weaponized drone.

 

Heard any strange buzzing overhead lately? But then you wouldn't...


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 05:36 PM

Phil,

I sent ya an email.

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 05:38 PM

Is that video about making stuff or about making a non-traceable AR?


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 06:24 PM

Better off using car rims to cast this. Much higher quality alloy.


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 07:18 PM

Is that video about making stuff or about making a non-traceable AR?

 

Yes, and how someone can cast their own lower using simple tools and methods. There are several videos on YouTube demostrating making AR lowers with CNC but this video show how he built one with melted cans, a manual mill, an engine lathe, files, and even making his own broaches.


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 09:19 PM

Since he put this up on youtube, and gave it a serial number, I would assume he has an FFL for manufacturing.  Pretty cool, but man that's a lot of work!


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 09:50 PM

15 seconds in he says something like "What the big deal? You have all of these other pieces, why make the frame? Well, the lower is the gun. It has a serial number, its what's regulated. The rest of the stuff you can buy on the internet with no problem."

 

I don't know, Phil. What does that sound like to you?

 

PS: I'm not sure that there's anything illegal about that, but his intent seems pretty clear.

 

PPS: And it is impressive work. :good:

 

Oh, by the way, I'm an FFL holder: http://fflgundealers...super-pawn.html


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Posted 22 September 2017 - 02:43 AM

I stand corrected, it's actually perfectly legal... per the BATFE:
 
No, a license is not required to make a firearm solely for personal use. However, a license is required to manufacture firearms for sale or distribution. The law prohibits a person from assembling a non–sporting semiautomatic rifle or shotgun from 10 or more imported parts, as well as firearms that cannot be detected by metal detectors or x–ray machines. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and advance approval by ATF.


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Posted 22 September 2017 - 09:45 AM

15 seconds in he says something like "What the big deal? You have all of these other pieces, why make the frame? Well, the lower is the gun. It has a serial number, its what's regulated. The rest of the stuff you can buy on the internet with no problem."
 
I don't know, Phil. What does that sound like to you?
 
PS: I'm not sure that there's anything illegal about that, but his intent seems pretty clear.
 
PPS: And it is impressive work. :good:
 
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I cannot tell you what the the video maker's motivation is/was. I suggest you go over to his video and ask him the same question in the comments section. I posted this as an interesting piece where someone took ordinary things and through some work and smarts was able to make something tangible. There are dozens of people who have posted "make your own AR" videos on YouTube. This video is unique because he takes otherwise spent objects and creates a foundation for something else. I like creativity.
 
I will not get into what I really feel as that would violate the TOU of this board.
 
BTW... It is not illegal to make your own personal weapon, athough the state of California is trying to outlaw that.


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Posted 22 September 2017 - 10:55 AM

No doubt, it is impressive craftsmanship, even if it's along the lines of "doing it just to show it can be done"  


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Posted 22 September 2017 - 11:17 AM

Agree and that's why I shared it here.
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Posted 22 September 2017 - 02:48 PM

Having been in aluminum casting for nearly 50 years, I see about a dozen problems in this video. I'm not going to elaborate about them here, but as an entertainment video, it serves the purpose.



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Posted 22 September 2017 - 03:09 PM

Yeah, Dave, some people like making their own stuff, no matter how impractical, or crappy.

Stuff like spending $20 and 3-4 hours work to make an angle grinder about a 1/3 as good as a $29.95 one you can buy at Home Depot.

Or the best, someone taking probably 5 hours to construct a "drilling machine", that was about 5% as good as a drill press that fell off of the tailgate, at Harbor Freight. Lol

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 03:53 PM

I agree about the building something with great effort and time when a off-the-shelf solution is better and at less cost than the person's hourly rate at work.

 

Casting aluminum can alloy isn't the stuff to use although he seems to have made it work. I have seen many videos showing melting and casting "can alloy" and it rarely works. 


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Posted 22 September 2017 - 06:08 PM

 

 


Skip to the end (approx. 5:00 mark) to see how "unawesome" it works.


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Posted 22 September 2017 - 06:33 PM

Sort of like building your own chassis from scratch when you can get a perfectly good one for $21.

 

I need someone who can convert my SKS forged receiver to take AK clips. I did not make it out of beer cans. I bought it at a gun show.


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Posted 23 September 2017 - 01:45 PM

Watching this video I am reminded of some of the things the VC did during the Vietnam conflict. They would collect

damaged weapons from dead bodies and jury rig them into working again. I have seen pictures of such contraptions,

which included a bazooka that had it's tube replaced with a piece of terracotta sewer pipe. But is there any reason

a person with modern machining equipment should use those same methods? 







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