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#1 TSR

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 08:24 PM

Maybe someone here, can remember the builder of these two chassis, likely the same person. Date guestimate: early to mid 1970.

1/ Spring-steel center section, round wire, hefty rear body brace, the hinged parts are sprung, nice construction.

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2/ Spring-steel center section nicely shaped, precise assembly with flat wire.

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Now what we have here, is suspected to be a Bill Steube Jr. job, or one by someone who made a nice copy of his work. It is in poor condition and currently going though rehabilitation in the company of 3000 small ceramic pellets and soapy water:

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Last but not least, yet another Bob Emott-inspired, Tony P chassis built for John Gorski Jr. Maybe John can recall this particular job and what he did with it:

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Dozens more to figure out...  :(
 


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 08:28 PM

Does the bottom one say built for mike tango?


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 08:31 PM

It also looks like the split pans were added at a later date as some engraving “bodies” is cut partially off.


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 08:01 PM

Hi Tony,

Yes, this is what is inscribed:

On the drop arm: "Tony P "B" Car"
"Built for Mike Tango"

On the pans:

"Team Nutley Products"

"Connie Tango Painted Bodies" (in fact, "Painted Bod" as indeed the split pans were added later, the original ends cut off).

Can you tell us more?
Any ideas about the spring-steel chassis? Both center sections are hand cut and I had never seen one where the angled parts covered both sides of the rear axle tubing (see on the right side of the one with the thinner rails).



 



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Posted 22 November 2017 - 08:07 PM

Yes Tony it says built for Mike Tango. Was it the chassis he won at Buzzys? I think I ran it in a

race after that. Maybe I added the rear split pans. Did u bend that rear body support on pans or me?

Are there pictures of that race?


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 08:13 PM

If it is the chassis he won with at Buzzys, Howie also used it to win a mid Atlantic car model race. The split pans I know I did not put on. Unfortunately Charlie Harris almost never took any pictures for his articles so lots of cool car designs are lost forever.

In regards to the steel cars no idea who made them but it’s a beautiful job especially with the bent up axle supports.


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 08:33 PM

Tony, thanks! I found most of these from eBay sales over the years, over 200 of them so far! Many are identified, some are not. We only keep the really nice ones, there is not enough room in the museum for a "crap wing" ! :laugh2:
We are fortunate to have saved many that would surely have been thrown away over time, so that there will be a story behind all the young and not so young men who raced these little marvels, because it is what they are, compared to the cookie-cutter stuff made today.
Many of them will be assembled as complete cars, depending on parts availability: motors, wheels, bodies...


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 08:37 PM

but it’s a beautiful job especially with the bent up axle supports.

Yes.

I never remember seeing one with them, bent up front and rear.


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 10:32 PM

I like the low CG pan stops on the first one.


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 10:36 PM

Check out the lCG body pin tubes on my chassis.


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 10:44 PM

Tony my favorite chassis of yours is the Donnie Barber 1975 chassis.


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 03:55 PM

 

I never remember seeing one with them, bent up front and rear.

Mike, it is the sole example I also have ever seen with that feature... nice torch work, not sure if the builder hat treated the finished part after bending it. I built a few in my days and struggled just bending the rails up in just one direction!   :dash2:
 


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 04:34 PM

We learned that torch job after breaking one Nutley rear end...


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Posted 25 November 2017 - 02:41 PM

 

From Tony P:
Mike Tango won with this chassis at Buzzarama.
Howie Ursaner also used it to win a mid Atlantic Car Model race. The split pans I know I did not put on. Unfortunately Charlie Harris almost never took any pictures for his articles so lots of cool car designs are lost forever.

 

Can someone give me the dates on these two races, so I don't have to look for it? Thanks in advance!  :)

I cleaned it up, looks fab:

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