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#1 Mbloes

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 04:10 PM

I've had this body forever. PdL informed me that it is a Russkit Honda.
 
It's still in pretty good condition and, since these wide F1 bodies are pretty rare, I thought I would use it as a springboard to a new car.
 
The body:
 
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Posted 11 December 2017 - 04:15 PM

This otherwise fantastic chassis will donate its drop arm (and front axle tube):

 

old chassis.jpg

 

 

This body is pretty low, so I'm going with a B motor.  The arm is nicely refurbished by Alpha, and is helpfully marked "26 CC":

 

motor 3.jpg  


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 04:21 PM

The finished motor.
 
The paint is Duplicolor "Chevy orange" engine paint. Great color but I think I'm going back to VHT. Sticker is original.
 
motor 4.jpg
 
The endbell is all tapped for machine screws and milled for chassis clearance.
 
motor 5.jpg
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Posted 11 December 2017 - 04:41 PM

Nice project, Mike! Watching with interest.


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 04:54 PM

Chassis pix. I got tired of polishing so this is what you get.

 

I kind of went for an "earlier" type of chassis with the Cox guide drop arm and a motor box. The motor box took me exactly one try to bend.

 

I cheated on the chassis geometry a little bit by tucking the motor box under the endbell a bit (as opposed to going all the way around it).  This allowed me to use less radical bends to get back to the rear axle tube.

 

Check it out:

 

chassis 5.jpg

 

chassis 3.jpg


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 05:12 PM

Whoa, Mike. That is a lot of motor for a formula car!  \You're gonna use every bit of that anglewinder chassis (which looks great). To paraphrase Doug Marcaida ("Forged in Fire" TV Show)... "your car will kill"! 


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 05:17 PM

:heart: :heart: :heart:


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 05:19 PM

Color is similar, but that looks too wide to be the Russkit Honda, which has a different exhaust/inlet arrangement in the back. 

 

Interesting project though! 

 

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 06:02 PM

Don, thanks. I wouldn't know - I posted a pic of it years ago and PdL chimed in with that info.


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 06:03 PM

Dynamic Honda I believe.


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 06:30 PM

Nice!


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 06:39 PM

Thanks, Tony.

 

Here's PdL's post:

 

http://slotblog.net/...stuff/?p=584952


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 07:37 PM

Now that's how you recycle old chassis!  That is something new made primarily from that older piece!  Nice!  Btw, you did a very nice job with the reconditioning of that motor.  I'm interested in getting some feedback as to how it ran once completed.  I took another look, but I still don't see how you "cheated" on the chassis!


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 08:23 PM

  I'm interested in getting some feedback as to how it ran once completed.

 

 

Well, typically my old cars like this go directly to the trailer upon completion - no track time.  But an otherwise temperamental break-in resulted in a smooth 1.5 amp draw @ 4 volts, with the temperature probably characterized as "warm plus 1".

 

 

 

 I took another look, but I still don't see how you "cheated" on the chassis!

 

You'll understand once the motor is installed.  I'll make it a point to highlight it to you.


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 08:39 PM

I ran out of my daily allotment of "Likes" so..... :good:

 

You really got the 3 Rs covered with this build. 

Reuse

Repurpose

Recycle


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 02:13 PM

 

 

You really got the 3 Rs covered with this build. 

Reuse

Repurpose

Recycle

 

 

Yeah, I think we (and by we, I mean me) lose sight of why we keep all of this old stuff.

 

I'm trying to use more than I buy.  It's a struggle.


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 02:16 PM

Mocked up a little bit now.  It's funny, with all of the jigging and aligning and right angles and stuff how things still need a little TLC to assemble.

 

My motor box was just a little too "precision" and the endbell screw didn't clear.  I had to notch the chassis and I'm not happy about it.

 

mock 2.jpg

 

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 02:20 PM

  I took another look, but I still don't see how you "cheated" on the chassis!

 

Check out the white arrows.  A typical motor box would be longer and clear the bottom of the endbell.  Instead, I milled the bottom of the enbell a bit so I could tuck the wire underneath.  That way, my bends don't have to be so radical getting back to the rear axle tube.

 

 

 

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 04:01 PM

Cutting the end bell was typical of the era.


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 04:33 PM

...or a quick fix with a hot Ungar....(ugly...)


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 06:04 PM

So it ain't cheating if it was something common of the era eh??!!  I really don't think anyone would have seen that as a 'cheat', it's a very nice build!


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 06:45 PM

That trick started with the "B" motor and eventually all "C" end bells were molded with that notch.  You are not the first!


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Posted 13 December 2017 - 02:27 PM

The goal was to get the rails as straight as possible on the end bell side of the chassis.


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 12:59 PM

Chassis is complete . . .

 

roller 1.jpg

 

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Body up next.


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Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:01 PM

And . . . body is done.

 

 

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:03 PM

Driver detail.  The driver was some old resin driver that I had.  The seatbelts are literally painters (blue) tape, painted Sprint White, then cut out.

 

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 03:09 PM

Beautiful build :clapping: and finish with the paint, driver and details!!  Do another one.....

 

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 03:38 PM

Thanks, Don.  I'm glad you like it.

 

I'd like to take credit for the paint, but that body is 50 years old and was already painted that groovy brown color.  That's why you can see cracks and scratches and stuff if you look closely.  I just detailed it out a bit and polished it.


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Posted 27 December 2017 - 04:35 PM

Beautifully SANO :heart: :heart: That's a Bad to the Bone F1


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Posted 27 December 2017 - 08:34 PM

Thanks, Paul. 

 

Yeah, I think these look very bad, especially when you get the wide view from on top.


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Posted 27 December 2017 - 08:37 PM

Personally love the wide F1s :heart:

Wish there was someone pulling these phat bodies :D





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