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#1 Mbloes

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 04:10 PM

I've had this body forever. PdL informed me that it is a Russkit Honda.
 
It's still in pretty good condition and, since these wide F1 bodies are pretty rare, I thought I would use it as a springboard to a new car.
 
The body:
 
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Posted 11 December 2017 - 04:15 PM

This otherwise fantastic chassis will donate its drop arm (and front axle tube):

 

old chassis.jpg

 

 

This body is pretty low, so I'm going with a B motor.  The arm is nicely refurbished by Alpha, and is helpfully marked "26 CC":

 

motor 3.jpg  


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 04:21 PM

The finished motor.
 
The paint is Duplicolor "Chevy orange" engine paint. Great color but I think I'm going back to VHT. Sticker is original.
 
motor 4.jpg
 
The endbell is all tapped for machine screws and milled for chassis clearance.
 
motor 5.jpg
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Posted 11 December 2017 - 04:41 PM

Nice project, Mike! Watching with interest.


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 04:54 PM

Chassis pix. I got tired of polishing so this is what you get.

 

I kind of went for an "earlier" type of chassis with the Cox guide drop arm and a motor box. The motor box took me exactly one try to bend.

 

I cheated on the chassis geometry a little bit by tucking the motor box under the endbell a bit (as opposed to going all the way around it).  This allowed me to use less radical bends to get back to the rear axle tube.

 

Check it out:

 

chassis 5.jpg

 

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 05:12 PM

Whoa, Mike. That is a lot of motor for a formula car!  \You're gonna use every bit of that anglewinder chassis (which looks great). To paraphrase Doug Marcaida ("Forged in Fire" TV Show)... "your car will kill"! 


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 05:17 PM

:heart: :heart: :heart:


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 05:19 PM

Color is similar, but that looks too wide to be the Russkit Honda, which has a different exhaust/inlet arrangement in the back. 

 

Interesting project though! 

 

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 06:02 PM

Don, thanks. I wouldn't know - I posted a pic of it years ago and PdL chimed in with that info.


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 06:03 PM

Dynamic Honda I believe.


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 06:30 PM

Nice!


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 06:39 PM

Thanks, Tony.

 

Here's PdL's post:

 

http://slotblog.net/...stuff/?p=584952


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 07:37 PM

Now that's how you recycle old chassis!  That is something new made primarily from that older piece!  Nice!  Btw, you did a very nice job with the reconditioning of that motor.  I'm interested in getting some feedback as to how it ran once completed.  I took another look, but I still don't see how you "cheated" on the chassis!


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 08:23 PM

  I'm interested in getting some feedback as to how it ran once completed.

 

 

Well, typically my old cars like this go directly to the trailer upon completion - no track time.  But an otherwise temperamental break-in resulted in a smooth 1.5 amp draw @ 4 volts, with the temperature probably characterized as "warm plus 1".

 

 

 

 I took another look, but I still don't see how you "cheated" on the chassis!

 

You'll understand once the motor is installed.  I'll make it a point to highlight it to you.


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 08:39 PM

I ran out of my daily allotment of "Likes" so..... :good:

 

You really got the 3 Rs covered with this build. 

Reuse

Repurpose

Recycle


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 02:13 PM

 

 

You really got the 3 Rs covered with this build. 

Reuse

Repurpose

Recycle

 

 

Yeah, I think we (and by we, I mean me) lose sight of why we keep all of this old stuff.

 

I'm trying to use more than I buy.  It's a struggle.


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 02:16 PM

Mocked up a little bit now.  It's funny, with all of the jigging and aligning and right angles and stuff how things still need a little TLC to assemble.

 

My motor box was just a little too "precision" and the endbell screw didn't clear.  I had to notch the chassis and I'm not happy about it.

 

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 02:20 PM

  I took another look, but I still don't see how you "cheated" on the chassis!

 

Check out the white arrows.  A typical motor box would be longer and clear the bottom of the endbell.  Instead, I milled the bottom of the enbell a bit so I could tuck the wire underneath.  That way, my bends don't have to be so radical getting back to the rear axle tube.

 

 

 

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 04:01 PM

Cutting the end bell was typical of the era.


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 04:33 PM

...or a quick fix with a hot Ungar....(ugly...)


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 06:04 PM

So it ain't cheating if it was something common of the era eh??!!  I really don't think anyone would have seen that as a 'cheat', it's a very nice build!


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 06:45 PM

That trick started with the "B" motor and eventually all "C" end bells were molded with that notch.  You are not the first!


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Posted 13 December 2017 - 02:27 PM

The goal was to get the rails as straight as possible on the end bell side of the chassis.


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 12:59 PM

Chassis is complete . . .

 

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Body up next.


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Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:01 PM

And . . . body is done.

 

 

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