I'm curious about the endbell which I did not receive. Were they custom or made for the rectangle style can.
Thanks in advance for your consideration and any info related!
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:22 AM
I got this in a large motor lot from eBay. Looks like early Mura cut short with flat sides and early cobalts installed.
I'm curious about the endbell which I did not receive. Were they custom or made for the rectangle style can.
Thanks in advance for your consideration and any info related!
I'm curious about the endbell which I did not receive. Were they custom or made for the rectangle style can.
Thanks in advance for your consideration and any info related!
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 03:57 AM
It's probably from this era - early '80s but is not here where some flat sided motors can be seen: Are these early Koford Feather motors?
BTW, good pics of some old motors and arms can be seen HERE.
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:13 PM
Looks like a hot open Grp 15 setup where the magnet size was not restricted. They usually cut more can away for higher RPM. Square can would require a special endbell, but many in the timeframe used modified (milled/filed) C-can endbells.
Ceramic or cobalt magnets? Koford did have a flat sided Grp 27 can - I have an unused one without magnets or endbell in my pile.
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:24 PM
It's probably from this era - early '80s but is not here where some flat sided motors can be seen: Are these early Koford Feather motors?
BTW, good pics of some old motors and arms can be seen HERE.
Great link.
"In 1982 evertything changed, the Koford Feather motor arrived, with two small flat back samarium cobalt magnets but still with a .500" dia. armature, it was a new endbell..."
The above comment isn't 100% accurate.
The original set-up with "small", flat back, samarium cobalt mags, was the Koford Micro, and came out in late 1981.
It had a newly-tooled, by Koford, endbell, that was used throughout the Koford Micro, Feather, Feather II, U-500, and Pro Slot Hex motors.
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:49 PM
I would have to see it in person to be 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure you have a set-up that was jointly marketed by Pro Slot, Trinity, and Camen, that went by the names the Cube and (Little?) Black Box.
It came out in early '82, as an an answer to the Koford Micro and Feather.
I don't remember if it used a newly-tooled endbell, or a milled Mura.
There is a very, very slight chance, I have one laying around.
I would need a top pic, but the one you have looks like it was racer shortened.
It came out in early '82, as an an answer to the Koford Micro and Feather.
I don't remember if it used a newly-tooled endbell, or a milled Mura.
There is a very, very slight chance, I have one laying around.
I would need a top pic, but the one you have looks like it was racer shortened.
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 03:45 PM
The magnets are too thick for a Camen Lightning, probably a Pro Slot Hex.
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 03:58 PM
That is a great link.
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 04:10 PM
These little relics were also in the lot.
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 04:14 PM
I found the endbell... wow!
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 05:02 PM
Mike, you were right on with the Trinity "little black box"! Great call, sir!
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 05:18 PM
Does the endbell look like bespoke tooling, or a cut-down Mura?
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 05:38 PM
I am not sure...
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:11 PM
If it looks like there is a possibility it was cut from a Mura, it probably was; i.e. there is only "missing" plastic, not "extra."
As far as the other samarium cobalt motors, they appear to be Fantom/Pro Slot Hexes. In pics, it's sometimes hard to differentiate them from Koford Feather IIs.
Does the can have chamfered corners, along with the tops and bottoms of the magnets, also having tiny chamfers? If so, it's the Fantom/Pro Slot.
Value?
Unless the guy who posted the pics in the Pekka link wants them, or some unknown person is trying to start "Nostalgia '80s Wing Racing", it would be nothing, to maybe $50, to a low bucks drag racer.
PS: Fun fact -my spellcheck does not recognize the word "chamfer."
As far as the other samarium cobalt motors, they appear to be Fantom/Pro Slot Hexes. In pics, it's sometimes hard to differentiate them from Koford Feather IIs.
Does the can have chamfered corners, along with the tops and bottoms of the magnets, also having tiny chamfers? If so, it's the Fantom/Pro Slot.
Value?
Unless the guy who posted the pics in the Pekka link wants them, or some unknown person is trying to start "Nostalgia '80s Wing Racing", it would be nothing, to maybe $50, to a low bucks drag racer.
PS: Fun fact -my spellcheck does not recognize the word "chamfer."
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:29 PM
Thanks for your input and expertise, Mike!
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:33 PM
The opening is larger circumference on the "little black box" and the Mura has the raised letters molded in so not definitive in my good eye LOL.
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:59 PM
These odd-ball motors pop up every now and then. I didn't have all the needed parts so mine went off to another blogger with a soft spot for weirdo motors.
Square motor cans?
Square motor cans?
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Posted 14 December 2017 - 01:56 PM
Trinity endbell is a cut down Mura.
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Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:20 PM
Hello zipper, thanks for the link but today I can't pull it up? Says server can't handle request. Any ideas?It's probably from this era - early '80s but is not here where some flat sided motors can be seen: Are these early Koford Feather motors?
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Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:54 PM
Probably just that server down - here it goes thru Instagram: https://www.instagra...s/slotcarmotor/
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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:05 PM
Thank you sir! Happy holidays to you!Probably just that server down - here it goes thru Instagram: https://www.instagra...s/slotcarmotor/
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