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#1 Pablo

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:07 PM

What is the difference, besides color?

I'm securing urethane tires to wheels and Brad Blohm recommended the black.

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 07:01 PM

The black should be the "toughened" adhesive. Much stronger, and has just the slightest bit of flexibility


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 07:20 PM

Thanks John, that answers my question.

Which brand do you like? I've never used it.

 

PS. I saw a VW bug on the road here in MS today like your avatar.

It was a blue color, moon type wheel covers, hard top.

Not shiny, had some patina. Pretty much stock, real nice.

I had to stop and give the driver a "thumbs up" :good:


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:07 PM

Loctite 480 is the best black flexible Cyanoacrylate
I use it a lot in the assembly of carbon fibre arrows for bowhunting
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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:17 AM

Pablo...another glue you might want to try is ...E-6000...comes in black white and clear, has many uses, cracks in bodies for instance, put some on finger and rub on inside of body on crack let sit over night , crack gone, I use it for spoilers, it will NOT come loose and you dont have staples to tear the body. just a nother option to try....Kim



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Posted 14 January 2018 - 10:58 AM

Thanks John, that answers my question.

Which brand do you like? I've never used it.

 

PS. I saw a VW bug on the road here in MS today like your avatar.

It was a blue color, moon type wheel covers, hard top.

Not shiny, had some patina. Pretty much stock, real nice.

I had to stop and give the driver a "thumbs up" :good:

As Steve mentioned, I use the Loctite 480.  

 

Nice bug...right now it's about 17 degrees and a bit windy, all the nice toys are snug in their garages for a few months   :yawnface:


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 11:09 AM

Thanks, 480 it shall be.


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 06:13 PM

No wonder I can't find it locally - $20 for a small bottle!!

If I was using it daily, that would be OK, but.....


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 07:51 PM

The E-6000 Kim mentioned will be cheaper. I think mine came from Walmart. Are the urethanes Paul Gage tires?

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 08:55 PM

I have both Paul Gage urethanes and Ortmann urethanes, but the ones Brad recommended using black super glue on are NSR's. I'm NOT spending $20 for a tube of glue I might use 2 drops of every year.


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 09:41 PM

Try the urethanes from Bruno on Ebay.   He is in France and I find his tires best of them all.  They are molded in two sides and are the best I have found.  I'll post a link.   

 

 https://www.ebay.com...=p2047675.l2562


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 09:44 PM

Actually, I found I use 380.  Same type of stuff, the 480 is ok'ed for drinking water...doubt you need that.  The 380 you can get in tiny little tubes for a few bucks.


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 09:45 PM

Most of the Loctite black adhesives (e.g. 480) have "set" times longer than the clear types.  McMaster lists a 90 second hardening time for 480.  This window can be very useful in getting tires properly aligned.  The shelf life of Loctites adhesives can be greatly extended by keeping them refrigerated between use.

 

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:05 AM

The last word:

 

 

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:25 AM

I use the plain jane gel super glue for all my assembly work. It doesn't run and it allows me to reposition the parts if I need to. Plus it is relative cheap.

 

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 05:27 PM

Actually, I found I use 380.  Same type of stuff, the 480 is ok'ed for drinking water...doubt you need that.  The 380 you can get in tiny little tubes for a few bucks.

BINGO that works for me, John, got some on order :dance3:You da man  :) 

 

EM, thanks for the broken wanger video :laugh2: :laugh2:


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 06:45 PM

I always try to get any glue I use in small quantity in the smallest tubes available.  Crazy glue is easy to find, I get various loctite products that way as well.  I also came across a variety pack of the "shoe goo" glues in small tubes.  Even if it dries up after one use, I don't feel like I wasted much


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 08:04 PM

True, John.

I have zero aspiration to be the urethane plastic track tire guy.

If I did, I'd have popped for the 480. A small bottle of 380 was only about $6 plus $5 shipping.

You cut my out of pocket loss from 20 to 10 :crazy:


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 08:39 PM

The local club group at Sick Puppy Raceway, Weare, NH uses urethane tires on their Tunkel Brothers routed wood track & a newly built dragstrip.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 09:03 PM

Noted, Bill :)  I totally admit this is an area I am clueless.

Can you blame me for not wanting to throw a lot of money at it?


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:14 PM

I don't know what you're building, but I wouldn't spend big buck for glue either. Paul Gage recommends using a fingernail polish hardener but I forget if he recommends it for both aluminum & plastic hubs. This stuff is about $2.50 a bottle at Walmart & grocery stores. The Weare club also uses a clear flexible CA glue similar to E-6000.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 12:41 AM

Black CA has rubber in it for flexibility.  It's really overkill for simple tire mounting!  Clear E6000 will work fine and maintains it's flexibility! 


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:18 AM

Great commercial EM, thanks. 

 

I just use regular gel superglue also, will see if I can find some of the others here... 

 

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