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#1 Jairus

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 11:35 PM

Probably only a few will kick in on this, but I like the idea.
It's one of the few projects during these last few months that I really can get behind.

Sadly, there are many other projects in front of it so do not expect a lot of daily progress.

But the plan is to stuff modern magnets and arm into a "C" can motor and build a 4.25 wb stock car in the 1970 - 71 style.
Unfortunately my experience has shown that about 50% of the motors I build turn out well.
So... to that end, I decided to build two motors.

The first a Mura with a  tagged gp20 arm.  Not sure who wound it.
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The second, a Champion with a Camen tagged 27 arm.
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Whatever sounds best, will be installed into a hand built chassis.

The body is a M.A.C. Torino Cobra Stock car body.  Never done one of those and mildly excited about the prospect.
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The paint scheme at this point... probably like this.  
But like a girl, I tend to change my mind from time to time.
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Posted 01 February 2018 - 01:46 AM

Superb idea! Both motors look and sound killer :D

Can't quite tell, is the Torino complete with squished roof? Either way, look forward to the build & finished car :D

Got a few bits including a suitable bodyshell to have a go, although building will be a good way off as operations are still suspended post Harvey :(

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 07:04 AM

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 09:22 AM

The Torino Cobra was introduced in 1969 with a streamlined nose for the high speed NASCAR tracks at Daytona & Talladega. It was built to compete with the winged Chrysler Motors cars.  Street model Fords were given that name in later years. I saw David Pearson run the #17 at a race in 1968. It was the most beautifully looking car there & finished 2nd to Petty.. After the race, we went out on the track for a look close up.


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 10:59 AM

GET OFF MY LAWN!!! :laugh2:

 

This is going to be super cool :victory:


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 11:19 AM

I got to see that car race in person, too, at MIS! I was hooked!

 

Stock cars were so much more diverse looking and not just "wrapped sponsor blankets" back then. Plus, they looked recognizable to the real street car so a Ford was a Ford and a Dodge was a Dodge (even with their torsion bar suspensions). Now, they need headlight, tail light and grill wraps to make them look sort-of recognizable to the street car (until they line up next to an actual version of the street car).

 

Chevrolet omission was deliberate without being cruel - just look at the race results during that era. 'Nuff said.

 

I just broke out my parts to build a Retro-style chassis for my own Ford GT Mk IV using a Lancer repop (true to scale, not Truescale) body with an actual specific-and-accurate Ford GT Mk IV Lancer interior (from the 60's) I found on ePay. It will have working headlights and tail lights with pendulum-operated working brake lights. The chassis has been designed around tires that will be accurately sized with Mk IV correct wheel inserts (already have all these parts).

 

My tribute to Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt in winning the '67 LeMans contest.

 

Looking forward to following your thread, Pablo.

 

Keep it in the slot (and preserve its beauty but know it wants to be driven),

 

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 05:15 PM

The unknown arm is a Camen Group 20 machine wound, early 70's. 10bux new i think. . .


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 06:21 PM

Two excellent possible ways to go Jairus, and all being equal with the setups, either one should provide serious muscle.  A side note, both arms show the coils spilling past the outside ends of the stack, something all but impossible to avoid with some winds because of how little room there was on those lams.  I had many of the Mura 20's  (*and the 20+) and they ran like the dickens, but the Camen is especially pretty.


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Posted 03 February 2018 - 11:07 AM

Thank you Dennis.  So both are Camen then.
I was pretty sure I bought it from Pro-Slot in a baggy with card many years ago through NCP.  But it was at least 10 years ago and the grey matter is not what it used to be.

No rest for the wicked.
Been working on artwork for Johnny Lightning with other projects waiting in the wings. 
I only started this thread to make my proposal for the project.
Thanks for all the support.
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 08:51 PM

Finished a slot car and Johnny Lightning and paint is drying on another body.... so.... built a couple motors this evening.

The Mura fell together.  Pretty much because the can bearing was toast and sounded bad once run up.
New bearing and now it's the stronger motor.

The Champion took a little longer sourcing out the correct end bell and hardware.  But it sounds pretty darned strong.  
And, better, it looks cooler than the Mura just because it's not the norm.
Tough choice.

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Both are good strong motors and both will end up in nice cars.
But the question is, which will go into the Torino?

Wheels have been trued up.
Someone suggested I re-purpose some old wheels.  So that is what I did, soaking a set of orange rubber in lacquer thinner till the donut came off and then glued and trued these up to 1969 standards.   Continue to soak them with Trinity treatment to keep them soft.
Front wheels are repos from O'Keefe and Thigpen which replicate Associated items from the era.

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 09:23 AM

If the chassis is fairly heavy I'd go with the 20 and save the 27 for a lighter weight/more downforce/low profile body.

The 20 says "GET OFF MY LAWN". It's the sawed off side by side double barrel 12 gauge shotgun of the two arms.

It will push a heavy chassis better than the 27. Just my theory :aggressive: :thank_you2:


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