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Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:50 PM

Saturday, March 17, 2018

Buena Park Raceway

Group F (JK Retro Hawk motor)
Group F (ProSlot 4002FK motor)
27 Lite
Two Motor Open
 
All classes will be ran in spray glue conditions.

Both Group F races will run either Koford .615" spec hub or any .500" hub tire.
27 lite and 2MO will run Worlds rules, any tire.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 09:59 PM

I thought those were .660" hubs for open racing

 

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 10:32 PM

Can we run the style of RH motors that were just used in the Checkpoint Cup.


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Posted 07 February 2018 - 01:03 AM

We  have been only allowed to run long shaft Retro Hawks.

 

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And, Tim, the rules are Spec .615" or any .500" or smaller so I would say no to the .609" because of the retail cost of a waffle tire being over $13.


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Posted 07 February 2018 - 01:51 PM

Same motor long shaft or short shaft. Does it say in the rules specifically only long shaft  7R can be run. Thanks, Tim



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Posted 07 February 2018 - 04:14 PM

The only rules that are in writing are the USRA and Worlds and those are using the PSFK motor and you are right Tim my bad on smaller there are only 2 people that have a say in this Forrest and James and I still don't think BPR is selling any Short Shafts and all the ones used at the CPC were marked 

 

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PS no skin off my nose if you do run 1 

 

and we are running By Worlds Rules in these Class 



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Posted 07 February 2018 - 06:55 PM

what are the start times for each race???


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Posted 07 February 2018 - 07:10 PM

Any 7R motor can be ran. If you ran a 7R at the checkpoint cup then yes you can run it. Sorry Tim I was told .615 spec hub or any .500 hub due to cost. Also since the .609 hub is waffled and the spec tires arent, could mean theyre lighter, I havent weighed them to find out.
There are no worlds group f rules from what I know.
27 L Worlds rules is any steel or combo chassis, any tires, any wing body, single mag group 27 Motor, 2 motors only. Rear end must clear .063 clearance.
2MO rules any motor, any body, any chassis, rear end clearance .063 and only 2 motors alllowed.
If I missed something on those rules Im sure someone who knows them will add to them for 27L and 2MO.


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Posted 07 February 2018 - 07:10 PM

Racing wont start before 9 mike.
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Posted 07 February 2018 - 08:02 PM

Racing wont start before 9 mike.

am? pm?

 

have to work in the am :(

 

will be there about 1pm, hope to race one of the grF classes


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Posted 07 February 2018 - 10:59 PM

So James we are not running the New USRA rules that started 1/1/18 for Clearance for wings ?? and we run Bearings in GRP F not bushing as with the USRA

 

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man we have done this like for 5 years this way the same players and all these ????????????? must be getting old and can't remember ---- 



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Posted 07 February 2018 - 11:08 PM

Opp's no worlds GRP F only 27L and OMO sorry 

 

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 11:15 PM

Tim 

 

the Tires that you have Retail in the Koford Catalog for 22.98 they are for  spray glue and flat track it says that they use the soft wonder rubber on them 

 

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 02:18 PM

Jason I couldnt remember the side dam rule. Yes bearings in chassis.
Sorry tim but Forrest and Debbie are trying to keep cost down, even if theyre only a tad lighter. Almost $10 more per pair.
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Posted 09 February 2018 - 01:39 AM

AND Koford Makes the 615 Spec. tire for 12.95 special for the class for handout at the Faster tracks like this Years Nat's in 4 types WX ,WX+,WXX and WXXX

 

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But you can run the .500 hub and it will slow your car down make it easier to drive and make the motor run hotter if you wish got to love America where you still have a choice 



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Posted 09 February 2018 - 01:43 AM

James 

 

I should have said in Wings and the New rules is the same as the worlds 1/32 to start and no dragging in all classes 

 

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 04:53 PM

That's where this all came from and the Use of this Tire and Debbie (BPR) should have plenty but as you should know that's a crap shoot because of $$

 

so get them early because race day may be to late

 

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:51 PM

Thanks for the clarification James on Group F Motors. That can turn out to be a fun class. Both the RH and the FK. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 10:45 AM

Also Tim Wilkins the $20 .500 hub tire you are referring to is a full hub speed rubber tire that we use for qualifying for group 7. Speed rubber is not allowed in group f.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 01:51 PM

Forrest just told me that he was not aware that scrra ran short shaft motors at the checkpoint cup. People have already asked him and he told them long shaft motors only. Sorry if this is an inconvenience guys. Long shaft motors only, these are the same rules they run monthly at BP.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 05:40 PM

My understanding for the Group F races:
- any commercially available box stock 12 or Group F or Group 12 chassis
Group F (JK Retro Hawk long shaft motor)
-Group F (ProSlot 4002FK motor)
- any .500" hub tire or .615" Koford spec tire

- No speed rubber tires

- Bearings allowed in rear axle

- No chassis modifications other than removing pan weight


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 10:23 PM

Yes tim also rear chassis clearance is .032, if car is dragging you will be black flagged
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 10:13 PM

All most Here See You Saturday   what is everyone running   Myself  GrpF FK only and 27L 

 

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 11:43 PM

Group F - both RH and FK.  Get there early for Pit space as a Big Drag race event is being held the same day.


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 03:45 PM

yep just found out

 

I think I may race RH if the Motor I have is any good found it in a drawer with a note big Rssss  NO BRAKES  lol

 

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