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#1 havlicek

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:12 PM

I picked up these from eBay, just because they looked nice :)  They were sold as later Muras, but they remind me of another brand, and I can't put my finger on it...or...are they Muras?

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:14 PM

Mura or Champion.
Both used a variety of holes.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:15 PM

Campbell's?


Yes, to be sure, this is it...


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:36 PM

Based on shape, proportion and configuration, they look like "early" (80s or 90s) D-cans.

 

They are D-cans, right?  Rather small can bushing...

 

Is that chrome or nickel plating?

 

For what it's worth, I can say for sure they are NOT Parma.

 

Slotworks?

 

Trinity?


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:49 PM

Hey John,

 

Are you thinking of the '60s Igarashi, like Russkit 27s?


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:58 PM

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:07 PM

Those are most likely Champion. They were the only cans with that cooling hole configuration that I remember being plated.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:28 PM

I believe they are Champions from the early 90's. I have a few in my collection of old Box Stock motors. nice little units but I did not care for the endbell hardware. Shortly after these the RJR c cans came out and they were much better
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:54 PM

Mura or Champion.
Both used a variety of holes.

 
Yeah, especially Mura... but I don't remember this hole pattern for Mura, Jairus.
 

Based on shape, proportion and configuration, they look like "early" ('80s or '90s) D-cans.
 
They are D-cans, right?  Rather small can bushing...
 
Is that chrome or nickel plating?
 
For what it's worth, I can say for sure they are NOT Parma.
 
Slotworks?
 
Trinity?


They're supposed  ( ;) ) to be C-cans, Steve, so the bushing would have to be a 5mm. That would be another reason I don't think they're Mura.
 

Are you thinking of the '60s Igarashi, like Russkit 27s?

 
Nah... but Steve is all over that!
 

Those are most likely Champion. They were the only cans with that cooling hole configuration that I remember being plated.

 
That was what I was thinking, Dave, but wasn't rally sure where I'd seen them.
 

I believe they are Champions from the early '90s. I have a few in my collection of old Box Stock motors. nice little units but I did not care for the endbell hardware. Shortly after these the RJR C-cans came out and they were much better


OK... so I guess they're Champions! If the endbell hardware is the regular Champion C stuff, I'm not a particular fan either, but the stuff works OK. These cans on the other hand seem pretty nice... so far.  :D


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:00 PM

Here are two photos from my stash of old box stock motors. They are indeed C-cans. The hardware is plated aluminum and soft. I had some issues with the plating burning from arching between the brush and the hood or backing plate.

I ran them about a year. Beat the World record for box stock on a King at Port Jeff. That lasted about 10 minutes before someone else bested me. RJR had copper hardware which I liked much better.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:28 PM

And I found this out on the web.

 

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:28 PM

RJR.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:41 PM

Mark beat me to it. I'm 99% sure they are early/mid-'90s Champion's. I actually rebuilt my old Box 15 car not too long ago using old RJR hardware since the Champion wasn't the best.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:02 PM

Thanks again, guys!


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:55 PM

Early and mid-'90s box stock cans; I saw them marketed by Champion and Pro Slot.

 

My problems with them were: the bushings would wear out much faster than the 6mm Mura bushings, and the magnets weren't as good as the Mura's (we weren't allowed to swap between brands), then the RJRs came out and the whole world changed.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 08:50 PM

Just to bring it full circle... Here is a RJR motor from about 1993. It did indeed change the world. I switched out most od my boxstock motors to RJR. Still have them and some parts.

 

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 06:48 AM

Yep... good cans alright, and I use them all the time. I even got some formed and folded, but not welded from Bill Bugenis.


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