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#1 Pablo

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Posted 30 March 2018 - 05:38 PM

Billy Watson Banshee re-pop body, about 7 thou

 

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I'll build a custom chassis for it. All brass - no wire no steel.

WB 3 3/4", GL 3/4", front wheel width 2 3/4", rear wheel width 2 7/8", pan width 2 3/4".

 

Made some pre- examination Sharpie marks

 

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Posted 30 March 2018 - 07:30 PM

Should be a good build! Will this be another painted body & brass chassis like the last two? Or will this be a complete car? I haven't forgotten that you got me one of these bodies, maybe two, from Billy.


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Posted 30 March 2018 - 09:02 PM

Nice! Sidewinder/inline/angle?

Big block Mabuchi? Just a few questions whilst watching & enjoying this build :D

Work your :wizard: !!
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Posted 31 March 2018 - 08:31 PM

This is the perfect motor for this car:

http://slotblog.net/...licate-thunder/

 

It's been hibernating in my vintage motor drawer for a while :laugh2:

 

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 12:03 AM

Nice, small block Mabuchi. Low C of G with a dose of HPower...

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 08:35 PM

Yessir, thanks Paul :) Speaking of low CG, that is a good point.

It is a small lightweight motor, and it would be easy to make it an inline.

But it would have to sit way up high to accomodate a reasonably sized wheel.

 

Has anyone ever made a 13uo sidewinder, or anglewinder? I've never seen one.

 

Here is my plan:

Clearance .032 level

Wheel OD rear .765, front TBD

Axle 3/32

Gears 48P 7T straight steel pinion, 30T sleeved Cox spur

 

It's better to deviate from a plan than have no plan at all :wink2:


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Posted 02 April 2018 - 12:59 AM

I like it, gets all the weight over the rear wheels too. I have never seen this done either. Good plan. Go for it.


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Posted 02 April 2018 - 07:43 AM

I don't know about 1/24 cars, but some of the 1/32 ones posted on scratchbuilt.com show various mini motors in both inline & anglewinder chassis. My guess is that some of the older British slot car mags have even more photos.


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Posted 02 April 2018 - 04:10 PM

Thanks Bill :)

 

"Hold the phone, Bunky, I think I have an idea". I can make it full sidewinder if I tilt the motor up.

7/30 48P gears would give me 4.3/1 and a sleeved Cox 30T will allow me to still use a 3/32 axle

 

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 05:13 PM

First order of business - the 45+ year old endbell is cracking.

Will a Pro Slot minican endbell work? Only one way to find out.....I'll try it

 

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 07:08 PM

Couldn't you also screw & glue a brass plate on the original endbell to strengthen the cracked area? Something similar to those Champion brass plates.


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Posted 02 April 2018 - 07:25 PM

Good point, and if this was a fun car for myself I could do that.

Would I sell it on the international market that way? Nope.


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 02:27 AM

I guess you could adapt an endbell from SCX RX (41/81?). That motor has same dimensions of mabuchi 13
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Posted 03 April 2018 - 06:43 AM

These endbells seem to crack while you just look at them. Is it something like the material ages poorly or doesn't like ultraviolet light?


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 07:45 AM

I'm pretty sure the 13UO/13D is the same size as the different flavors of FK.

Seem to remember John having used both PS & JK minican endbells for these modded mills? With material removal necessary..

The SCX endbells can be used but have unique brush hardware/springs. Although having seen a rewound HPower SCX the springs are strong enough for a 55 #29 and oem mags.

Bonus is they fit straight in with no dremeling required (from what I remember)

Love the idea of turning the small motor on its side for a true sidewinder :wizard:

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 07:50 AM

ATTENTION Colonel Pablo.  Please report to the "briefing room" (PMs).  I can hook you up and maintain the lovely vintage thing you have going here.  The repair is available, and I would be glad to take care of it for you.

(private Havlicek at attention and awaiting your reply...SIR!)  :D


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 08:16 AM

Thanks for the help everybody :) I was successful in making the PS EB fit.

I was worried that the bushing wouldn't be in alignment once I got it on, but it was perfect.

 

However, John offered to do a fix on the stock EB, so I'm opting to do it that way.

 

FYI, like Paul said, the PS EB will fit with some creative carving.


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 08:41 AM

13 UO! My favorite! 

 I will be sending a few of the little beauties to John H for  some magic shortly. These ones with the aluminum can mod were done by my mentor in the early 70s. I have one of his old chassis that is screaming for a restoration.

 

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 09:07 AM

Dennis, tell us more about these aluminum can mods. They appear to be an added plate for can mounting in an anglewinder.


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 10:24 AM

Exactly Bill. A fellow named Ron Allen got me started in the early 70s and he was a wizard with a Unimat. He cut the end out of the cans and installed the aluminum end with a BB. We put them in anglewinders.


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 11:13 AM

Here is the chassis it will reside in. 1973 vintage

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 12:10 PM

Sorry if I am hijacking your thread Pablo! 


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 03:49 PM

Dennis, the chassis appears to fit a womp body. Rails look like .032, but did you run fronts?


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 04:09 PM

No problemo, Dennis. It's relevant :good:


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 04:15 PM

The front axle tube was pirated at some point and I need to reinstall it. It is sprung on piano wire. It was pre-Womp for us. We ran sports car and saloon bodies on them, as well as an under 2.5 litre class that was fun. BMW 2002s, Vauxhall Firenzas, and more that I cannot recall. I wanted to get this restored to show Ron, but unfortunately he passed away around Christmas. His son Steve will enjoy seeing it though I am sure.
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