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#1 Samiam

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 09:01 AM

Looking at the rules for R&C 1966 so called Jail Door cars, (  http://socald3.com/s...ries_rules.html ) I was wondering if the Dynamic #321 bearing as seen in Pablo's build  http://slotblog.net/...e-2#entry716795 , posts #35 & 43, would be considered legal? 

 

4e. Brass tubing or rod drop arm only. No brass strip or plate is allowed. A bushing or tubing may be used as a guide pivot.

 

​Can this piece be considered a bushing? 

 

I only have one of Duffy's DHMI bushings and don't see anyone else making them. But I do have a bunch of the Dynamic pieces.  


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 09:26 AM

You planning to run in 1966?
 
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Posted 06 April 2018 - 10:40 AM

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 10:51 AM

 

You planning to run in 1966?
 
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Posted 06 April 2018 - 11:06 AM

To answer your original question, yes, I'd consider the Dynamic guide pivot pieces legal. Some of the Kemtron brass pieces should be legal too. The rules don't specify it has to be a "round bushing." The round pieces, like those RGEO made, are probably easier to work with in my opinion. Have fun building these cars. Are you planing both Can Am & F1s?


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 11:23 AM

I plan on building a few Sports Cars as they are more popular. Found a bunch of Falcon 2s that need a home and I have a lb. of bronze welding rod, so might as well put it all to good use. 


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 12:44 PM

When it was a somewhat popular class, the East Coast seemed to prefer F1 jail door cars & the left coast seemed to prefer sports cars. I don't think either runs them now. I think they should be fun to build & run on a track. If I ever build any, I'll use 3/4" fronts & 13/16" rears, only because I have both, yet have none of the rules' legal size.


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 04:13 PM

I'd say no, it's not legal. Read rule 3g.


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 07:41 PM

Jail door races are seldom run today in organized racing. The R&C 1966 rules might have been fine when they were held. If i were to build these cars today, I won't be using the R&C 1966 rules per verbatim. I'll use whatever I have on hand. If you could use guide nuts with the R&C 1966 rules, which weren't used in 1966, you can use the Dynamic guide pieces under  Bill's rules.  :)


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Posted 07 April 2018 - 06:25 AM

If I go "Back to the Future", I'm bringing Havlicek with me. :dance3: 

 

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 06:46 AM

Sam I have built at least two dozen Jail Door chassis since we started racing them in R.E. and if you showed up with a chassis with that guide piece on it I would have no problem with it. It seems legal to the rules. We recently had JD races at HVR and also a 4 hour enduro with them. Most of my builds were built like this one. They handle great!IMG_20130624_223248_267.jpg


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