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#1 Pablo

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 02:54 AM

Been eyeballing this little 1967 STP Indy Turbine Car body sitting alongside Billy Watson's track for a long time.

 

Today I took it home and gave it a toothbrush/liquid soap cleaning.

She cleaned up real nice :yes3:

 

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Is it a 1/32, or a 1/43? Who made it? Where did it come from? Who knows?

 

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I'm going to build it up :dance3:


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:06 AM

Nice looking body.

Looks like its got a 3" wheelbase, so if someone knows what the 1:1 car's wheelbase is, we could work out the scale.

:huh:

 

Gunna make it 4wd??

 

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:20 AM

The body has great details. from the slight discoloring, it's probably butyrate.  The wheelbase would indicate it's 1/32, too big for 1/43. too small for 1/24. I wonder if it came from a lesser known company, such as Shark? But I don't know for sure. Ask PDL, he'll have the answers.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:20 AM

It's most likely a 1/32 scale Lancer #358:

 

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The prototype had a 96.2" wheelbase, so in 1/32 scale 3 inches is spot-on... :good:

 

On the other hand... the prototype also was just a nudge more than 6 feet over the outside edges of the tires, so if you're going to build this in something close to actual 1/32 scale, the overall width shouldn't be much more than 2-1/4" or so.  Good luck  :D

 

Who let those pesky scale guys in here anyway?  :pardon:


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 10:20 AM

Hi Pablo,

 

Here's a vintage build of the famous racer. the body builds up into a really nice car. This one uses a pan chassis and a guide pin no less  :shok:  

 

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Indycals has 1/32 decals if you like that look:

 

http://www.indycals..../67turbine.html

 

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Let me know if you need anything and I'll help if I've got it. :victory:

 


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 10:22 AM

Thanks gentlemen :)

Gotta order those decals right now....


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 10:28 AM

Testors has #1175 Red Fluorescent color you might like:

 

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 10:54 AM

Decals on order. Now I'll put the body in a window sill to see if it clears up the yellowing a little.

As slow as I build, it may again be "Crystal Clear" by the time I'm ready to paint :dance3:

Seriously, I think it will be fine even if it doesn't help. But it can't hurt.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:28 AM

Nice stuff Pablo!  That one is cool for an indy - Soak it in bleach overnight yet?  Then dawn soap and some elbow grease with a terry cloth.  


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:17 PM

I have had pretty good luck by soaking my old bodies in hydrogen peroxide.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:33 PM

Guys, don't hold your breath waiting for me to start using chemicals in an attempt to remove natural yellowing.

It will come out looking absolutely fine once painted, with or without the yellowing.


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 06:38 PM

Starting to gather parts, and I'll just throw this out there for your perusal before I begin :)

 

Inline chassis

WB 3"

GL TBD

Wheel widths 2 1/2"

Rear wheel width 1/2"

 

FK motor, exact type TBD

Castleton bracket

WRP tongue (trimmed, of course)

.315" OD magnesium hubs with donuts, OD TBD

3/32 axles

 

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Your opinion is valued :wink2:


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 07:04 PM

For the motor have an "improved" by Havlicek FK.

 

After all the original car had so much power they used 4 wheel drive to get it to the ground.


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 07:24 PM

That actually crossed my mind. Thanks, Bob, but I do not concur.

Overpowering this little car would be a mistake.

It needs to be driveable. I've considered a Cheetah II or a Mini-Brute.

 

I can decide that later. Right now, I simply propose an FK jig motor.

The owner can decide how much power he needs.


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 07:31 PM

I think this car should have a "Pablo-wound" arm. Have you wound any since you built Brian's  Eagle for the then Eastlake Orange?

 

The brass guide tongue looks like a WRP item from CA. Does ARP sell them too? John Kallas used them on his BPR retros. These tongues have been around for over ten years. I got a couple locally from GTPJoe.


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 07:37 PM

Thanks Bill, I stand corrected, the tongue is a WRP :)


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 08:12 PM

I thought the tongue was a REHCo


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 08:30 PM

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 09:17 PM

That turbine 32nd shell is just beautiful :heart:

Should be a fun build and plenty of fun on the track. Drop arm? Iso?

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 07:30 AM

Excellent project Pablo, and an exciting car. Definitely a Lancer body, as Steve says. 

 

Here's one I restored a couple years ago for an Indy race in Bordo... not only is this a replica of a period magazine car, I'm pretty sure it's the magazine car itself! That's the original body, detailed in the 60s, and a Champion 5001 driving out of both sides, for real 4WD (probably not the best idea, given my race results!). I didn't have the original Riggen wheels/tires, unfortunately, so used what I had... 

 

Very tight under the nose: what are you going to use as a guide? 

 

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 08:16 AM

Paul, probably 3/32 axle in a tube, connected to flexi torsion rails, a la '34 Ford, etc.

Every car I've built using that method of controlling front wheels has worked great.

No ISO, no drop arm - not enough room.

My theory for little cars is, keep 'em simple, don't over-power 'em, and make the wheel tracks WIDE :)

 

Cool car, Don. I haven't yet dug into my flag bag of horrors, but I'll bet there is something perfect in there very small :D


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 04:30 PM

Day of change. Motor is starting to look like a 13uo instead of an FK, so I found a bracket for it.

Don, I did find some good flag choices :dance3:

All four wheels have changed from .318" OD Mag rims to JK .470 OD plastic, shod with Paul Gage Urethanes, and narrowed.


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 06:08 PM

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 06:15 PM

Gotta' get me a pair of those STP slacks.  :sun_bespectacled: 


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 06:59 PM

Guide: If you can find one, Sakatsu made a very small trailing guide (pivot at the front). Mine came years ago from Patto in AU but his site no longer lists them. I have never found anything better, other than a pin guide, for tight spaces.

 

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