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#1 Dave Stahl

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 04:01 PM

What braid juice are you using? Store-bought or homebrew? Thanks...






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Posted 08 April 2018 - 04:37 PM

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 04:41 PM

Just like with tire conditioner, use too much of it and it just screws up your raceway owner's track.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 04:53 PM

Yep MMO is the way to go. Always respect the owner's track!
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 05:07 PM

Lucky Bob's braid juice works brilliantly for me, get it from my raceway.

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 05:13 PM

What about oil?

 

I use turbine oil that comes in the Zoom Spout Oilers sold in hardware stores.  

 

I use it on both bushings and ball bearings.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 05:41 PM

Mobil 1 synthetic ATF.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 05:42 PM

Been using Get Some 1000 For Braid, bushings and bearings with awesome results for about four years now.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:30 PM

Where do I get the 1000 oil at?



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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:35 PM

Fetsome! 1000/
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:36 PM

Just like with tire conditioner, use too much of it and it just screws up your raceway owner's track.


I’m with Mr Swiss on this one, is it even really necessary? I can’t even imagine how it improves conductivity. i.e. adding oil to the comm doesn’t help.

I can’t believe it does the braid adhesion tape any good whatsoever and likely just aids dust and fluff collection... seems to me the only time I burn braids is when I use the stuff...
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Posted 09 April 2018 - 10:28 AM

All it does is clean the braid on the car. There is no miracle braid juice that will conduct more electricity through the braid.
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Posted 09 April 2018 - 10:42 AM

Might reduce friction a little until wears away - I mostly use it on qualification.


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Posted 09 April 2018 - 02:15 PM

Been using good old red Parma braid juice forever. Always keeps the braids clean and shiny.

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 03:27 PM

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 07:32 PM

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 07:42 PM

You have to be real careful with that stuff.

It's very slippery.

Someone was trying it as comm drops and it made his lane undriveable in one spot.

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 08:54 PM

What would you use, Mike?

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 09:10 PM

I just clean my braid, between heats, with naphtha/lighter fluid.

 

I have a hard time understanding how guys sometimes put their car back on the track, between heats, in a turn, and leave two slippery spots on their braid, that most likely, one of their tires will ride over during the heat.


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Posted 09 April 2018 - 09:52 PM

Braid juice... I like Parma. As everyone else said the key is just a light strip down your braid, not lathering it.

For oil any thin oil. Trinity Royal Oil was nice, Bud's oil, Tom Thumb sells a nice oil called Skippy Lube. Ive also used 0W-5 Lucas karting oil with cherry scent on and off for years.

 

Can't tell a difference from any of them. LOL.


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:44 PM

Juice being a petroleum product I have seen it's over usage start to soften the glue holding the braid down to the track. I don't use it. I'm with Mike. Clean with naphtha. If it's dirty, change it. It's as bad as over-oiling your motor or comm drops. Just more crap on the track


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 05:09 PM

I use WD-40 to clean my braid between heats. I add a tiny bit to each braid from a old tire glue bottle and then wipe it all of with a paper towel. You'd be surprised how much dirt comes off each time between heats and I believe it improves braid life a bit.

 

I agree with Mike in that you should never use enough (of anything) that leaves any residue on the track.


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Posted 11 April 2018 - 11:25 AM

So I wouldn't oil the bushings or motor because that can also make it to the track during the heat. What do you think happens to that stuff, it just vaporizes? That's why it's a good idea to clean the tires between heats also.


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Posted 11 April 2018 - 11:48 AM

Fred, your post is silly.

Oil your car properly, and it doesn't wind up on the track.

If someone is over oiling their car to the point they are spreading it on the track, they should be stopped.

The bottom line is if guys want to gob braid juice on their braid, they should expect to race on a track, where the braid will come up.
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Posted 11 April 2018 - 03:08 PM

I was just trying to stress that all the liquids we use during an event will make it to the track surface and that you are no more likely to pick up oil than you are braid juice and vice versa.  Sorry didn't mean to be so silly.  Funny thing is after all the years you've been racing I would have thought you above all others would have known that.  The thing that gets me the most is drivers servicing their cars over the racing surface, that practice should be outlawed everywhere.  Just a drop of braid juice or oil in your lane (and it's never their lane) can ruin your race.


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