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#1 wjtaylor

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 08:55 PM

Buena Park, Group F, Schedule change

 

Our next race will be May 6 and because of the number of racers that are attending the races and the late finishes that result, we are going to move the schedule forward.

 

As always, the raceway will open at 11AM.

 

Racing will start at 1PM with the Retro Hawk race, if we have enough entries. After the RH race there will be a 30 minute warm-up before the FK race.

 

If there is no Retro Hawk race, the FK race will start at 2PM.

 

Depending on the number of racers, we may split the field into “A” and “B” groups, with the more experienced racers in the “A” group. We will be asking you to honestly consider your skill level and which group you should race in. This would apply to either class as entries dictate.

 

If you want to run in both races and you only have one car, let us know and we will be happy to help you with the motor change if you need it.


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#2 Jason Holmes

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 10:14 PM

Well sorry won't be playing anymore

 

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I don't see a reason to change the start Time began at 4PM run 2 races if needed should be done by 6:30 that's not late but we will have to change the way things are run  last race we ran 14 heats do the math 3 on 3 off 6 x 14= 84 min. but in this case it took us 2hr 15min to finish 51 min. of track calls I think its time we let it run and people learn how to Drive there were only 2 people that raced Sunday that you would call newies less than 3 races It's time to let the race play out 


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#3 Tim Wilkins

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 11:18 PM

 The current schedule works best for me because I attend church.


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 11:26 PM

Create a few proposed schedules and let the racers vote on them
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:04 AM

Lets  consider a compromise, as bbr said, change times to what ever 1 - 3 pm   to start race or races. Some of us have a little farther to drive home. Lets vote. Come on Jason reconsider, We enjoy your help and input. As far as a A & B class for these $100.00 cars. I think its great to have advance racers racing with the still learning racers. How else are will you learn anything. Save your skills for the big races and Fast wing open cars. Hell most the people showing up now enjoy the wing racing and that's all they do and want to have some fun.  Let the race play out and everyone has to marshal. Comments on learn how to drive that's what everyone is trying to do and I personally appreciate all the help by the experienced racers and all of Forrest's Efforts to make this a fun time. Thanks for listening.

 

 

 

 

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 01:17 PM

Sunday is Church and Lunch with the Wife that only change's if its a major race or Traveling playing toy cars does not trump that   and I still think we should be able to start at 4 be done by 6:30 and run 2 race's if done right

 

 

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:26 PM

Even though I am going to be out of state till possibly October and not racing till then, I'd still like to make the suggestion that maybe move the wing races to the 1st Saturday of the month instead of the first Sunday. Follow along the lines of the Retro race schedule meaning start at aprox 10:00 am with maybe a quick lunch break somewhere between the races, depending on the number of entries.
This would allow the guys who work or have commitments on Sunday morning, to have a chance to still enter the monthly wing race and also might benefit racers who may have a long drive home by finishing the races much earlier in the day. A Saturday may also give the Grp F wing cars higher visibility and maybe attract some additional new racers.........Just a thought.
 
 
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:08 PM

Gona MS U Keith. Hopefully you get bored  and come race with us sooner. Always a pleasure to see you.

 

 

 

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 02:05 AM

I like a 1:30pm start time for RH , and a 3:30pm for FK.
Separate FK racers by how many laps you can run on black lane.

Just another idea to throw against the wall
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Posted 21 April 2018 - 10:49 PM

Would love to qualify on black.
Seperating into an A and B main is a good idea.racers that are learning or not quite to par with the A main can marshall and pick up tricks that the A main guys have and see how we get the job done. A main can marshall and watch the B main and help or guide them in the right direction. I as a racer dont mind either way so long as all racers talk and allow the faster guys thru. Id perfer this be a vote at the next race that way we can solve all issues at one time.

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 09:34 PM

Eric,

 

Qualifying on black is good.  Better than full punch on blue.  I was discussing with another Wing Car Racer the possibility of also running "laps and sections".  At least it takes some skill to drive black. Qualifying on blue and just punching it will determine who’s car is the fastest but doesn’t mean that driver belongs in the A main.  Downside it adds at least 30 minutes to the day's event.


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 05:30 PM

If we qualify on Black it's total Laps in 1 Min. not fast time and only Qualify if there's over 11 racers 

 

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 06:28 AM

Red makes more sense but I'm just happy you guys are doing Laps n sections.

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 08:22 AM

Just curious.

Why would you think you could offer that opinion / advice without ever being on their track?
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 09:21 AM

David 

 

On our Kind Red is a Much easier lane to Drive racers have a hard time with the lead on with black it can be a bear but fast if you do it right red is 2 blips Black lane is 70% of the Track call's in a race

 

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Posted 30 April 2018 - 06:34 PM

(Tim
Im there usually all day anyways testing and helping out if needed. Mainly figuring out the track and doing my homework.Adding half an hour but starting alittle earlier wouldnt matter to me!)
Getting big lap results do matter to me, getting the class to grow matters. Seperating racers is only going to improve racers that want to improve. Not all of us or anybody for that matter can show up 2 minutes before the race and expect to win or podium i dont care how good you may be . I dont want to be harsh about things but practice practice , not practice during race time dont switch out to a different car 1 min before the race. Race what you practice with. I have 1 car and its dialed in 4 races same motor and 2 sets of tires if i can do it we all can . If anyone needs help ask ill point you in the right direction.
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 11:12 PM

Just curious.
Why would you think you could offer that opinion / advice without ever being on their track?


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Posted 01 May 2018 - 10:44 AM

As most have seen I come in 15-20 min. before the race have 3-4 cars that are set up just a bit different to test the track after a few laps choose 1 and play for me it's no longer about the top 3 but having a good time and with all the Track calls it's a chore to have fun so getting the drivers into classes may make racing better but it may also drive some away Unlike Eric I only go though the big Prep for Big Races not monthly play time but to each there own  I do believe if you wish to get better he is right about practice and only on Red, Purple and Black stay off the easy lanes Take a few laps in the middle to see that the car is working and then switch and hit it hard on those lanes and have fun and pay attention to you other drivers not just your car 

 

have fun jason


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Posted 02 May 2018 - 08:13 AM

Great feedback, a lot of good ideas. That's why I enjoy racing. 

 

 

 

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 02:50 PM

Ill put my 2 cents in, even though it probably wont do much good. I agree with both Eric and Jason. Qualify black, laps and sections. Also let the race play out. I know youre trying to let the newbies get accustomed to racing but so many track calls doesnt teach them a thing. Also practice only goes so far, actual racing is what got me better. Having 6-8 cars on the track at the same time is way different then being on black by yourself practicing.
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Posted 04 May 2018 - 07:21 PM

If you say we are going to qualify on black, guess what lane everybody will be on. Might be better if we do a random selection of red, white, purple and black. That way everybody will be running a bunch of gutter lanes and not standing on line for black.

 

Although, personally, I don't think we need to qualify. Just separate the racers into new racers and experienced racers.

 

Separating the groups should, at least in theory, make the races go faster. When the new racers are racing, we will have all experienced marshals, so we will have fewer track calls. When the experienced racers are up, we don't crash to much, so fewer track calls.

 

Just a few ideas, comments please

 

And don't forget, this weeks racing starts at 1


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Posted 04 May 2018 - 07:42 PM

If you say we are going to qualify on black, guess what lane everybody will be on. Might be better if we do a random selection of red, white, purple and black. That way everybody will be running a bunch of gutter lanes and not standing on line for black.

 

Although, personally, I don't think we need to qualify. Just separate the racers into new racers and experienced racers.

 

Separating the groups should, at least in theory, make the races go faster. When the new racers are racing, we will have all experienced marshals, so we will have fewer track calls. When the experienced racers are up, we don't crash to much, so fewer track calls.

 

Just a few ideas, comments please

 

And don't forget, this weeks racing starts at 1

 

 

to set a baseline so that so that no one feels slighted, we should prove our worth to be racing in the 'A" group by dong a one minute run for laps and section on black, just one time  :D


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Posted 05 May 2018 - 02:15 PM

I understand that track calls are time consuming but thats part of racing. If youve ever watched nascar they stop the race if theres a crash otherwise the race would be over very quickly with a wad of beer cans. This goes for us as well not one of us wants our car wadded up when it couldve been advoided remember what i said if someones car comes off and you dont see it and smack there car behind a pole bridge ect. Dont complain you dont want track calls just let it play out and lap totals will go from 450 to 350. And yes if a line is needed so be in it on black - gutters it shouldnt take hours on any lane to get your timing down.
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Posted 05 May 2018 - 02:18 PM

I vote for a pro grp f class id still race both classes what do you guys think. Eliminate qualifing keep it round robin just deal with it. It works
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Posted 05 May 2018 - 05:32 PM

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