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#1 Jairus

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Posted 23 May 2018 - 10:10 AM

The Mongoose was released in or around 1968, designed by Larry Shinoda, an automotive designer who worked for GM during the early 60's before moving to Ford to work on the new "Boss 302" Mustang.  Could be that Larry was out of work and between jobs when he sketched out all the cool designs that made it into slot car bodies.  Unknown if he carved them himself or they were given to a friend who did the carving and molding.  Although, some have mentioned Larry himself did race on some of the tracks there in the Detroit area.  THAT I cannot confirm.

Was asked to build a chassis for this Mongoose.
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The paint is by Noose and looks great!  Body is really thin so going to require a fairly heavy rail on the sides to support it.

Took a lot of thought, and I also wanted to see what Paul came up with for his sister project for the same customer.
Therefore decided to go full vintage for this one.
The plan is to build a similar chassis like this one:
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The above chassis ran in the first Shinoda Reunion 2016 where it took (body too helped....) Peoples Choice and 2nd place: 1966-68 class. And a couple other awards... but they don't matter.
What matters is the design preforms so it becomes the basis with slight improvements.

What I plan to change is drop the front axle using pin-hole front wheels.
Add weight to the tongue with extra rails on the sides creating guide stops since the guide swung too wide.  Also lengthening the width of the hinge to limit side to side movement.

To that end, progress so far is that the motor bracket is soldered up and the tongue assembled.  All are already in the jig.
Motor is a K&B Bobcat with a re-wound and balanced motor.  It's screams and probably will melt that endbell so I'll test test test before releasing this one.  Might even change the endbell to a Tradeship?  (Still waffling on that one.)
 

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Wheels and tires are Riggen pin-hole fronts and threaded Riggen rears.  Tires are fresh grey Rubitex (Thanks Sam) that is so damn soft!
They have been trued up to 1", but will be turned down to a vintage 5/8" prior to final assembly.

 

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Warming up the iron, wish me luck.

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Posted 23 May 2018 - 10:45 AM

Jarius
Yes, Larry did race at the Groove in Royal Oak, Michigan and at Pontiac Model Raceway in Pontiac, Michigan, actual eye witness.
Gene

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Posted 23 May 2018 - 10:53 AM

Thank you Gene, thought you might comment and glad you did!  :good:


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Posted 24 May 2018 - 10:00 AM

Chassis done and in the spirit of Shinoda, as painted on the body.

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Time to hang the bits. (which usually leads to modifications)

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Posted 25 May 2018 - 10:49 AM

Well, ran into the first modification.
The Cox guide sets the nose up too high requiring a drop down guide, more like a Jet Flag.
(If Rick can make me a deeper draw tongue former that would be GREAT!!!)

So, dyed a Jet Flag black and filed on the nose of the tongue.
At this point, I realized we really do not need those whisker limiters.  But will leave them for now.

 

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Gotta go work at the sign shop today so, no updates till tomorrow.

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Posted 25 May 2018 - 03:36 PM

Could that draw tongue former form higher lifts with shims? I don't have one of the RGEO tools. but often wish i did.


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Posted 25 May 2018 - 03:43 PM

Tried it.
Shims leave marks.
Heck, after more than a hundred tongues, this darned tongue former is leaving marks too.
Might need two now....

Rick Bernardo, please answer the courtesy phone.


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Posted 26 May 2018 - 07:14 PM

Finished the chassis today.
Took most of the day, but she's set up as well and vintage as I could do for a Shinoda Tribute car.

 

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Rum and Rootbeer in the glass, done for the day.  Arrrrrr arr arr B:)


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Posted 26 May 2018 - 08:55 PM

Arrrr, love the form fit of the rails and vintage Thingie style, I say you nailed it :heart: :heart:


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 02:37 PM

OKAY, car is finally finished.
Customer wanted a different motor so I obliged.  Heck, that hot Bobcat was suppose to go into my Shinoda Proxy racer from two years ago anyway so, no problem

Built a new motor using a Mura "A" (single hole) can, Dynamic shim, Mura magnets and Mura arm.  The end bell is Tradeship. 
Sings beautifully... but didn't have any vintage pinion gears.  Have to order more.  So soldered on an ARP angled pinion.  Better mesh, but not really vintage.

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(Looking at that tongue, I probably should sign the thing..... )

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From the rear and the left rear quarter panel, there are a couple dents from compression.  Doubt they are anything Noose did as the paint seems to amplify the shape. (Joe, you did a beautiful job on this btw!)  
Wish it wasn't such darned thin material and I think that contributed to the dents and folding, although they are hardly noticeable. 

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Well, it's done!

As an aside.... wanted to use a Cox guide flag on this build.
But didn't have a guide tongue with enough drop in it to make that work.

Well... Rick Bennardo came through for me yet again and the new step mandrel arrived yesterday. (See below)

The drop is a perfect 1/8" so now I can make drop arms that fit Cox guides.
Thank you sir, you are a stand up guy!

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Respectfully submitted,

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 09:33 AM

Gorgeous Mongoose ! The one hole Mura looks perfect amongst all that brass :D

Really cool that Rick made it fast and had it on your doorstep at the drop of a hat.

Have to ask him again for one of these as it's such a cool tool.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:43 PM

Rick is one of the best in the business.
As are Noose and PCH, Mike Swiss, Greg, ... shoot. Too many to mention.
Love this hobby and thank you Paul.


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 07:29 PM

For sure sure sign it, this is art. Very swoopy lines on the chassis that complement the body, Perfect.


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Posted 24 June 2018 - 10:40 PM

Wow!

Another wonderful Thingie masterpiece for and of the exciting World of the Thingies Kingdom.

We still have a missing Kingee though, lost somewhere across the great pond in another fascinating world of mechanical goodness no doubt.

To Whom It May Concern: Beautiful Mongoose!


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