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#1 Half Fast

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Posted 24 May 2018 - 12:19 PM

From the USRA:
 
"2018 USRA Wing Car Nats will be held at PA Watson's Slot Car Raceway in Houston, TX, August 1-5, 2018. Racing on Gerding G-16 formally at Dallas Slot Cars and used at the 2016 USRA Nats."
 
The NASRA Nats are scheduled for August 21-26 at SlotCars-R-Us "The Track" in Tennesee.
 
It will be interesting to see which and how many wing racers show up for each Nats.
 
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Posted 24 May 2018 - 06:23 PM

Poll on FB says 51 to 6 in favor of TN so far.


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Posted 25 May 2018 - 09:54 AM

I fail to see how this is dueling. Two groups holding their big go three weeks apart. How is that dueling?
 
I would imagine different racers will attend each. Well within their right to do so. My understanding it was about leadership and different views on how to proceed.

At the end of the day if it will grow slot car racing more power to them.
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Posted 26 May 2018 - 04:32 AM

Brian,

It is accurate to call it 'dueling' because it's the result of two factions refusing to compromise for the greater good of the activity. How much sense does it make for the miniscule numnber of wing cars racers in 2018 to fragment into separate sanctioning bodies? It makes none to me and why it happened should be clear to anyone with two brain cells to rub together.

"At the end of the day if it will grow slot car racing more power to them."

IMO there is zero possibility that this will be the effect that ensues.

The situation is another example of what almost always happens in an evaporating farm pond...
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Posted 26 May 2018 - 05:45 AM

Poll on FB says 51 to 6 in favor of TN so far.

 

There won't be 57 "racers" at either event.  (and there should be)



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Posted 26 May 2018 - 12:34 PM

I fail to see how this is dueling. Two groups holding their big go three weeks apart. How is that dueling?
 
I would imagine different racers will attend each. Well within their right to do so. My understanding it was about leadership and different views on how to proceed.

At the end of the day if it will grow slot car racing more power to them.

 

The two groups used to be one group and the relative attendance at these events will likely decide the credibility of both.  I'd call that a duel.


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Posted 26 May 2018 - 12:38 PM

 

There won't be 57 "racers" at either event.  (and there should be)

 

I think you're being overly pessimistic... but I have to agree that attendance will, unfortunately, not be as good as it should be.


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Posted 28 May 2018 - 10:28 AM

I don't think all of the cards are on the table yet...


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Posted 28 May 2018 - 10:38 AM

I don't think all of the cards are on the table yet...


Why is somebody holding the joker. :)
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Posted 28 May 2018 - 05:01 PM

So who is going?
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Posted 28 May 2018 - 10:58 PM

Nick,
 
I'm going to TN and there'sgood chance I'll be in TX also.

I do think there only should be one Group 2 Divs and the only way that will happen is to replace those in charge at the top of the USRA.
 
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Posted 06 August 2018 - 11:53 AM

USRA Nats in TX attendance:

 

Gp 7: 9 racers

TMO: 5

27L: 11

OMB: 9

Gp F: 11

C12: 6 (non Nats race)

 

It will be interesting to compare this with the upcoming NASRA Nats in TN

 

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 02:20 PM

I haven't attended a national wing race in a couple years. However, coming from a sport (powerlifting) where there are over 10 federations in the US alone and all of them have their nationals. It is the lifters who show who has the true nationals, which I think is the case in slot racing rt now. Its just sad to see an organization, with the history like USRA, to be flushed down the drain. 


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Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:19 AM

Looks like there just might be a bigger turnout for the Tenn. race.  Guess we'll just have to wait and see.


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Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:41 AM

I wonder what they did for turn marshalls!

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:49 AM

I haven't raced a GP7 car in 30 years, probably couldn't even watch one go around the track now. Still, this is sad to see.


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Posted 07 August 2018 - 12:19 PM

FYI:

 

70 entries for the Battle of the Colonies Retro race,  2 races run in one day.

 

51 entries for Texas Nat's, 6 races run in 5 or 6 days.

 

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 02:09 PM

Well, at least they had plenty of pit space...


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Posted 07 August 2018 - 02:59 PM

It's sad that ego's and arrogance still create so many problems in slot racing.  It's not like we have a big organization anymore---the few that are left need to get along!!  Get together and FIX IT!! NO ONE is benefiting from this!!


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:13 AM

We had over 50 entries for the February regular monthly RETRO race at Dallas Slot Cars.
23 racers and three classes of cars including 9 of the "too fast" Anglewinder Big Dog cars!
Surplus of marshalls and great low drama competition!
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Posted 08 August 2018 - 10:38 AM

 Its just sad to see an organization, with the history like USRA, to be flushed down the drain. 

 


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 08:43 PM

The NASRA  Nats schedule is as follows

 

August 21-Tuesday - F Am and Om Box12

August 22- Wednesday -C12 and Open practice

August 23-Thursday-Hillbilly Box12 and open practice

August 24- Friday- 27lite and open practice

August 25- Saturday- 2MO and open Practice

August 26- Sunday -Pro7

 

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:33 PM

Any information on the coverage of the races yet?


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Posted 16 August 2018 - 03:33 PM

I wouldn't hold your breath on any live coverage...  :sun_bespectacled:


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Posted 16 August 2018 - 04:03 PM

Have to wonder why. 

 

Despite all the other problems the coverage of the USRA Div I Nats was very good. Seems NASRA would want to showcase its Nats as well.


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