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#26 TSR

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:55 PM

In the (really) Olde Days, Team Russkit members had a 3/4" X 3" long piece of steel rod with a penny glued at the end. We have an original at the museum. I'll let you figure out the use for such a device... :)




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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:07 PM

A car launcher???

A lane shorting-out device???

A paddle to spank the driver in the car when deslotting too much???

A guide breaker??? Put that in a slot under the bridge and that could cause some damage.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:42 PM

At the '99 Nats in BP, Kerry Champion and Gugu were going at it for a few heats. Kerry was in the lead by about 8 feet for two heats. When the checkered flag flew, Kerry had coasted over the lap counter by about two feet and Gugu was behind the lap counter by four feet. The lap counter software was not the newer version and it did not count the coast lap for the last heat.

When they checked the cars, Gugu was awarded the move-up to the Main and Kerry was out, although he actually was in fourth place. The lap counter showed a tie and track position gave it to Gugu...
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:47 PM

Girard, OH, circa 199?. In the heat of a 27 race, Bob Huey had to make a motor change and rushing to the track, the car was put back on the track. IT WENT BACKWARDS, fell off the bridge into another lane/slot in reverse position and took off to meet the correct car coming head on.... ugh.
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 11:13 PM

That was at Cincinnati at Gran Prix Raceway in '86 or '87. Mike Leap's pit crew changed motors during the lane change. Big Mike's car was put on green lane just coming out of the bank. The power came on and Mike's car went backwards as the pit crew didn't know the motor they put in was "straight wire." As the car went backwards it came out of the slot and rolled down the banking and dropped into Bob Huey's blue lane.

All I remember was a loud crash as I went down the straight on orange lane and the track went off.

Big Mike's car and Bob's car met almost in the middle of the chute head on in the same lane.

Knocked Huey's motor out and sheared off Big Mike's guide flag.

If the cars hadn't met in the straight, Mike's car probably would have hit Mike "Raisin" Garrett in the belly in the top turn. Poor Raisin wouldn't have seen it coming or knew what hit him.

That damned Huey still came back to win the race. :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: I finished second to Bob in that race and in the series points that year.

It was a Group 27 race.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 11:39 PM

At the '99 Nats in BP, Kerry Champion and Gugu were going at it for a few heats. Kerry was in the lead by about 8 feet for two heats. When the checkered flag flew, Kerry had coasted over the lap counter by about two feet and Gugu was behind the lap counter by four feet. The lap counter software was not the newer version and it did not count the coast lap for the last heat.

When they checked the cars, Gugu was awarded the move-up to the Main and Kerry was out, although he actually was in fourth place. The lap counter showed a tie and track position gave it to Gugu...

Highly unlikely since both were in the main (plus the '99 Nats was in Idaho).

From Buena Park's website:
1) Beuf Pedersen - 1105 laps
2) Gugu Bernardino - 1047
3) Mike Swiss - 1042
4) Vlado Okali - 1001
5) M.S.P. (Mario) - 998
6) Kerry Champion - 916
7) Carlos Aloise - 896
8)-Forrest Watchers - 633

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 11:45 PM

Maybe the second Nats (I may have been wrong on the year) there, but I watched it go down...
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 11:48 PM

How about that "world record" lap timer that was .2 sec or so faster that was used at American Hobbies in FL??? The one that was only used for qualifying and not for the racing.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 11:50 PM

Maybe the second Nats (I may have been wrong on the year) there, but I watched it go down...

Even more unlikely.
At the second BP Nats, Gugu didn't make the main and Kerry wasn't there.

More likely it was the G7 warm-up in 2000 at BP.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 12:01 AM

The story goes Big Jim Greenemeyer (Checkpoint owner after Bill Steube) would wind Group 27 armatures with the first five turns on each pole not soldered to anything. That way if cut in half for a protest it would show the correct number of wires. These came with Pro Slot tags in them so in case they were discovered Checkpoint would be clean and Dan would take the heat.

I'm skeptical of that one as the Big Jim cheater arms I saw proudly carried the Checkpoint tags.

There was an era where the sponsored racers would show up at a race and ask each other what wind they were running this month. A double-wind 27 finally encouraged a truce. The over-the-counter arms had no chance. Everbody argued over who started the cheating but it was good to see it end.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 12:09 AM

In the (really) Olde Days, Team Russkit members had a 3/4" X 3" long piece of steel rod with a penny glued at the end. We have an original at the museum. I let you figure out the use for such a device... :)

A coin between two fingers of a marshal could short the track, nicely stopping or slowing the car (letting the car resume speed into a wall blast was a nice finishing touch).

The rod would be overkill for that, but back in the day some tracks had the lap counter strip live so you could give laps, even with the power off. The Russkit tool would seem overkill for that, too.

I know, they used it to cheat pay toilets! :laugh2:
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 12:20 AM

Mike, it must have been the warm-up race for Group 7:

1) Gugu Bernardino - 1051 laps
2) Scott Fisher - 994
3) Mike Swiss - 990
4) Paul Ciccarello - 955
5) Sherri Pedersen - 866
6) Vlado Okali - 738
7) Forrest Watchers - 657
8) Rick Bennardo - 2 (DNF)
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 01:36 AM

Speaking of cheater arms, I remember one well-known slot figure getting hold of an arm
he suspected to be bogus, and installing it in his 70+ year old father's car.

Once his dad and the car made it through tech, he then filed a protest against it to expose that arm's illegality.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 05:06 AM

Big Jim wound a few good arms in his day! May he "RIP".

One of his real talents was spray painting. During the '70s, he worked for a major San Fernando Valley Cadillac dealer as a warranty painter. He also painted Team Checkpoint race bodies, including his Bi-Centennial Nats Concours-winning "American Eagle Beauty."

Herb Wade turned his Greenbelt, MD, apartment into Team Checkpoint headauarters during the weeks leading up to Joel's' big race. Herb built a twelve foot workbench across the living room wall. It was a full-blown thrash area, including pit areas for all.

Jim set up camp at Herb's kitchen table to do his painting. He did up six really good team bodies. He then settled into completing his own beauty. He was so into the body, the rest of his car lay in pieces waiting for assembly. He did not start working on his race motors until night before race day.

It was my task to solder pinions on everyone's race motors. I did at least thirty motors that day and night. Jim's motors were not ready until about 3 AM. I did his back-up motors, but he soldered on his own race motor pinion. Needless to say, "He choked Big Jim time". His pinion spun during the last heat of the Semi-Main and he missed the move-up to Main. He blamed me for years, but his solder job on that one motor was the only one that spun.

If I remember right, there were three or four very costly spun pinions in the Pro Main.

Jim was a long-time friend. Our families knew each other even before slot cars brought us together as teammates.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 08:12 AM

Could it have happened this past weekend at Zep's on my lane.

Wasn't Noose on white by the bank when the power popped? :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Only joking, Noose, but I hear there is a video. :o
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 08:45 AM

Then there was Brian Shafranek's "mystery" Intl 15 arm/motor that he wouldn't allow to be torn down after it was protested.

And there was Mike Braidman's Mura Group 20 arm with a Intl 15 tag in it that was a factory "mis-tag". We won a few races with that arm before it got taken away from him.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 09:07 AM

Mike B,

Believe me about the Pro Slot-tagged Big Jim Group 27s. LOL...

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 11:26 AM

The double 27 that Don Campbell ran at Crash & Burn had a tag that said BJ27. Even with only 5 degrees timing, that thing just knocked the bank down...

The weekly G27s at Monaco Raceway were 25s or 25-1/2s.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 11:54 AM

It was pretty stupid allowing hand-wound Group motors. You'd have to run half speed and only punch the straight when there was no one next to you to compare your speed to.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 01:14 PM

The '60s East Coast crew returned from a race and were waiting in the airline terminal for their luggage. Phil Rubin's slot box was coming down the chute with the top open and everything spilling out all over. Phil jumped up on the carousel and rode it around with all the luggage, picking up the parts and putting them back in his slot box.

Hi P...

You got part of the story... And I still laugh every time I think about it... I was there...

We were waiting for our bags at an airport that had luggage carousels that were fed by an overhead conveyer belt system. While watching for my bag, I noticed a slot car tire come bouncing down the conveyer belt. I remarked to Chris Vitucci, 'What the heck was that!!!'... A second or two later, the front of a slot car box came sliding down... followed by the sides, the drawers, and then all the cars and parts that were in the box...

Phil yelled "Hey, that's my stuff" You mentioned that Phil jumped on the carousel and started grabbing parts, but you did not mention that the small parts were UNDER the luggage on the carousel... So Phil just started kicking people's bags off the carousel so he could get to his parts. The other passangers went nuts, but five foot tall, 100 pound, bald-headed Phil was yelling like mad, and looked so crazy that they didn't try to do anything to him. He just stuffed parts into his pockets, the rolled up front of his shirt, down his pants, and then he started handing stuff to Chris and me to hold but it was hard for us to do much as we were laughing too hard...

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 01:23 PM

I ought to put that one in the book! :laugh2:

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 01:24 PM

That is even funnier than I remember it was. LOL... Phil sure was a character... The fastest man in the race until he would destroy his car in a massive crash.

Also I learned real quick never let Phil look at your chassis. He would pick it up and flex it to see if he could break the solder joints.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 01:52 PM

Tony,

Talking about books, don't forget to look inside the box Warmack just sent you... :)

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 01:54 PM

OK, I will. Thanks!

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 11:55 PM

That was at Cincinnati at Gran Prix Raceway in '86 or' 87...

Ron,

You're right, it was in November of 1986 at a Tri-State race in Cincinnatti.

Rande was pitting Mike's car and changed motors between heats. Rande put the car on the track just before the deadman. Since it was wired backwards it backed up and flipped into Bob's lane. They met in the main straight. I remember this so well because the motor that was in Bob's car was borrowed from me. It was a BRAND NEW Camen size 5 set-up and arm and my best motor.

When the cars hit, the motor (mine) in Bob's car broke loose from the chassis and came out in front of the guide with the lead wires still attached. It was DESTROYED.

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