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#1 Jairus

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 12:00 PM

Little is known about Larry Shinoda regarding his involvement in the slot car hobby other than the legacy he left behind.  Some older friends said he did drop by Detroit slot tracks and played around but never raced in organized events that I heard about.
One thing that is clear, is that he loved to draw cool cars and design cool body shapes.  I suspect that either he turned neat designs over to a body carver or carved them himself. Regardless the designs speak of his understanding of the clearances for chassis and aerodynamics that aid in performance.  That is clear in the cars attributed to his name.
One such body most likely carved and molded late in the era is the Shinoda GT.
This car was originally back poured by Eldon "Gene" Adams and molded by him after cleaning it up some.  It's a nice shape that's easily fits over most any chassis and has great lines that are more on the mild side of the "Thingy" isle.  But beautiful none the less.

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Read on.

To begin with, a center section had to be constructed.
The motor bracket is tied to the tongue with steel rails.
Then an ISO is made up of brass rods pivoting at the rear most chassis rod.
A forward plate with a plunge hole for the tongue limiter is provided to reduce and adjust tongue drop.
Front axle is wire tied and soldered to uprights.
Center tongue is something Rick at RGEO sent me as a goof or factory blem.  I corrected the center line of the guide hole by installing a brass tube and trimming.
The hole was given a 2 degree tilt for correct guide tilt.

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Now we have pans hung with a bite-bar limiting movement.

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Body dropped over the chassis demonstrates plenty of clearance.  Well, mostly.
The guide weight might require a bit of clearance... but I'll address that later.
Time to assemble the chassis.

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 12:12 PM

The frame you guys do leaves me speechless.


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 12:21 PM

Finished chassis.
I would not have put Parma wires on this car, but they were provided by the owner as were all the bits and body.
I only built the chassis and painted the body.  But my experience with Parma wire in racing situations is that it breaks.  Usually when you are in the 8th heat and in 1st place.... but maybe that's just me.

Motor has a Certus CCW arm and therefore the gear is placed on the starboard side.
Rear wheels are Silicone coated foam.
Front wheels are Tamiya ball bearing items.
Gear Cox.
Jairus' clothing needs laundering... (wait, what?)

 

 

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Out back, some of the rails needed trimming to narrow the rear track.
Body measures 3.25".
But I pushed the rear track a slight bit over that and installed a set of ball bearing races with an 1/8" axle with flats.

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The front wheels require a 2mm front axle.
So the axle kind of floats in a 1/8" chunk of brass tubing with wire wrapped to keep the wheels in place.
There is however, a slight bit of side to side movement which we will see that I needed to account for later.

 

 

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 12:34 PM

Well... here we go!
My favorite part is paint, but still have to cut and mount that body.
And... the front axle touches the sides limiting the ISO, so something needs to be done.

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What I did was pretty simple actually.
After mounting, the center line of the axle was marked and a hole cut to release the tension on the axle.  
Now it floats easily and the ISO is free from restriction.
Body then was mask for the front wheels and "Bob's your uncle", time for paint!!!!


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Paint design was drawn out by the owner.
I probably would have done something stupid covering up the beautiful lines of that Shinoda shape.  But the silver really brings it out and I sort of like it!
(Can I have it?)

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As I mentioned before, the guide weight might be a problem.  Well it touched on a flush braid track but not on a recessed track.  Not cool!
So a bit of clearance had to be cut in the body.

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(Man who wants pretty nurse must be patient.)


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 12:43 PM

Okay, final pics.
Going out in the mail this afternoon.

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Larry designed some neat shapes.  This one is very feminine in it's shaping around wheel clearances more than most and a wild paint-job would have covered that aspect up.
Go back to my first post and you will see what I mean.  It really is a beautiful mold.
I miss you Larry.

 


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 12:58 PM

Beautiful !

 

Great job as usual Jairus !


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 02:44 PM

Bad to the Bone beautiful :heart: :heart: :heart:

 

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 03:07 PM

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 04:30 PM

Looks great!


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 04:54 PM

As always, another fine piece of artwork by Jairus! Thanks for sharing the pictures. Love seeing your work!

 

That is a great body that Gene remade.

I won 1st place with that body and a hand built chassis at one of the races held at last year's Shinoda Reunion Race at Downriver Speedway in Lincoln Park, MI.

 

Here's a picture of the top three.

 

If anyone is interested I'll post some pictures of the chassis and better pictures of the car.

 

And for those inquiring minds that say "who is Gene Adams?"....here's a picture from that race where Gene took 1st place in a race.He's the guy in the middle. The guy on the right is Eliot Erlandson, who puts on this race every year.1st place!.jpg Smiles!.jpg


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:02 PM

As always, another fine piece of artwork by Jairus! Thanks for sharing the pictures. Love seeing your work!

 

That is a great body that Gene remade.

I won 1st place with that body and a hand built chassis at one of the races held at last year's Shinoda Reunion Race at Downriver Speedway in Lincoln Park, MI.

 

Here's a picture of the top three.

 

If anyone is interested I'll post some pictures of the chassis and better pictures of the car.

 

Sawdust Man,

 

Please DO post more pictures of your car here in this thread. This is NOT just my cars but anyone who want to showcase their "thingie" can bring it here.

 

I would love to see more of your 70 GT Shinoda winning car.

 

Gene is a living legend too and one day a Proxy race in his honor would be great! 2112 maybe?

 

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:08 PM

Hey Jairus,

 

According to Jerry Mrlik's son Jeff, and Dave Corbin, Larry liked to race in multi-hour enduros.  They would travel from the Detroit area on weekends and race in Toledo, Bowling Green, or the Cleveland area.  Then when they got home way late Saturday night/Sunday morning and dropped Larry off they had to wait and make sure his wife would let him in, and yes, sometimes she was mad and wouldn't so he had to sleep at the Mrlik household!  Famous designer or not, when the Mrs. is mad about being gone all day playing with "those silly little cars..."  Also explains why Jerry's stuff I got from Jeff is beat senseless!  BUT, lots of tricky little things like quick-change attachments to speed motor changes, and wires over the front wheels to keep the bodies "up", and brass fins hanging off the motor brush tubes, at least 3 years before "elephant ears" I might add!


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:16 PM

Sawdust Man,

 

I meant for you to post your 70 GT Shinoda under THINGIES in the "Love My Thingies" thread!

 

 

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 06:32 PM

To help clarify things, Parma had two very different black-sheathed leadwire. First, they had the red & black stuff that came on all their 16D motors. It had strands of silver (probably tin or a tin alloy) wire. That's the stuff that is junk, since if often breaks when looked at cross-eyed. I lost one oval race with it while leading, but i have never used it again. And second, Parma has a leadwire with copper strands & a black silicone sheath. This was sold in 10' lengths & in 1' lengths with guide clips installed. This leadwire is as good as any other leadwire on the market. I can't deterine from Jairus's  photos if they show tinned copper stands or not, but the sheath appears to be silicone. I think he used the good Parma leadwire.


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 07:27 PM

I also have other lead wire from Certus and GenesWorld among others.

 

I will replace the Parma nevertheless to be sure!

 

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