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#76 Pablo

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Posted 24 September 2019 - 07:52 PM

Rear wheel assembly complete. Width is 2 15/16", plus the knockoffs. Don't try and nerf this car LOL

 

Remember when I tested the amp draw during motor installation at 1.7 amps at 3 volts? Drivetrain test is 100% successful, she draws 1.7 amps at 3 volts with threaded axle, gears, BBs, wheels, knockoffs, spacers. No brag, just fact

 

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#77 Bill from NH

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Posted 24 September 2019 - 09:52 PM

Those knockoffs look like it's being prepared for a chariot race. You must have seen Ben-Hur.  :laugh2:


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Posted 24 September 2019 - 11:41 PM

Wow, lovely to see a rolling chassis Pablo ... it's looking awesome! As for the color, I originally called it root beer because that's what it was called in all the lore I read about the Bandit. But if you think the root beer with a white backing looks pretty close, let's go with that. And Martin's pics are closer to what the car originally looked like. Mine sat in a window in my mom's basement for many years and is quite sun faded.


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Posted 25 September 2019 - 08:06 AM

The originals appear the same shade color as Martin's to me, and it doesn't look anything like root beer. Root beer is brown. Those originals look goldish-brown or orangish-brown to me. Maybe "Burnt Sienna" would be a better description of what we are after? Let me try new test swatches tonight, RB mixed with gold, RB backed with gold.

 

The Ben-Hur look I cannot help, the wheels really aren't meant for knockoffs  :)

 

Hope you like the #44 meatballs. Martin's are a better size and match the original better but mine are inside and won't scuff in crashes caused by too much horsepower  :laugh2:

 

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Posted 25 September 2019 - 08:21 AM

The Ben-Hur look I cannot help, the wheels really aren't meant for knockoffs  :)

 

 

 

Pablo, grinding off the "hub" on the backside of the knockoffs will improve the looks...

 

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Posted 25 September 2019 - 08:38 AM

Ahh, good idea. I actually did that to a car once, and forgot about it. Will do  :)

Unless Larry likes nerfing people and inflicting damage  :laugh2:


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Posted 25 September 2019 - 10:27 AM

So my first Bandit was like a lion fish ... slow but everyone knew to keep their distance. But with John's motor, this one is more like an attack sub. Come to think of it, it actually does look like some kind of submersible. Love the 44's!


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Posted 25 September 2019 - 11:37 AM

Cool. Stand by for new paint tests about 3 PM Pacific time....

Decal sheet from ED is on order (they were closed yesterday)


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#84 Bill from NH

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Posted 25 September 2019 - 01:00 PM

Got any bronze to try backing that root beer with? Both Parma & Createx fabric paints have one.


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Posted 25 September 2019 - 03:39 PM

I took the test cup of thinned Candy Root Beer, added a squirt each of:

-Faspearl Gold (has some glitter to it)

-Fasred

-Tamiya XF-6 Copper

 

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Then backed it with 3 options, left to right:

-Faswhite

-nothing

-Faspearl Gold

 

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All 3 look almost the same, but I think the gold backing worked the best. I like it, what do you think? I consider it very similar to original, but with a more "root-beerish" flavor  :laugh2:


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Posted 25 September 2019 - 04:28 PM

I like that one best too and I really like that it adds a bit of sparkle. I know my paint has lost a bit of it's pizzas but looking a Martin's originals, the Dynamic recipe clearly had some sparkle to it. Let's go with that mix.


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Posted 25 September 2019 - 04:53 PM

  :D I'll name my new paint mix "Fasparkle Candy Gold Copper Root Beer" ®  :laugh2:

 

Don, thanks again for reminding me to narrow the knockoffs, good catch  :good: Maybe we should re-invent Bill from NH as "Ben-Hur of NH"  :laugh2:

 

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I do appreciate the critiques, gentlemen  :)  Does this look any better? I removed 35 thou from each, that's as far as I dare go without sacrificing strength

 

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Posted 25 September 2019 - 07:12 PM

Getting the front ride height perfect on a 50 year old design is difficult to nail down, but critical for good performance. I start with a nylon .032 spacer under the flag, and a 10 thou steel above for tuning. Braid is 25 thou. In the end, it all depends on the braid recess of the track, and what the car likes

 

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Team Associated weight JB Welded to drop arm 

 

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 05:32 PM

Lead wires attached to "old skool" brass clips, using the "double overhand knot" method. Believe it or not, it self-centers the flag  :D  Roller is done, now all I have to do is wait for the ED decal then squirt the paint

 

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 05:59 PM

Paul, have you track tested it yet?    Anxious to see if it has so much power that  it won't be able to keep the guide in the slot.


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Posted 26 September 2019 - 08:33 PM

Matt, my closest track is 8 hours round trip. But I'm confident the 1/4 oz. weight plus the Classic flag weight will keep it in the slot :)


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Posted 27 September 2019 - 08:28 PM

The roller looks awesome Pablo. I know the remaining decals come first but I can hardly wait to see some Fasparkle Candy Gold Copper Root Beer!


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Posted 29 September 2019 - 04:51 PM

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Posted 29 September 2019 - 07:19 PM

Beautiful Pablo! :heart:  :heart:  :heart:  And the paint looks spot on. Go have a beer on me ... or two!  :)


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Posted 29 September 2019 - 07:29 PM

When Larry is happy, I'm happy  :D


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Posted 29 September 2019 - 09:00 PM

You gotta please the man who pays the bills. :to_become_senile:


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Posted 30 September 2019 - 04:26 PM

First Bandit complete. Weight is 98 grams and balance point is right at the screws that attach the body mount gizmo

 

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Posted 30 September 2019 - 07:11 PM

Just awesome ... I can hardly wait to try it out! Thanks you so much Pablo!!!



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 09:08 AM

Beautiful job Paul - you really hit the color spot on! 

 

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 10:03 AM

Thanks!  :D


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