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#1 mickey thumbs

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 02:54 PM

Returning after a long break. Thought Id borrow my wifes router and build a track- my first.F15FD081-9DC2-4461-8898-BED980F3E1D6.jpeg

Decided to sample the current 1/32 RTR spectrum. Will compare 2 JK CH11 Hawk7 Peugeots to Slot-it sidewinder FordGT & Chap2E. Chose PM club controllers. I look forward to comments and help with questions.
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Posted 11 November 2018 - 03:21 PM

Welcome back to slots Mickey... You might find it a problem finding a "thumb controller" though. - Impressed your wife owns a router, you married well. 


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Posted 11 November 2018 - 04:25 PM

Thanks. I didn’t break the router, so she may let me use her Dremel
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Posted 12 November 2018 - 05:21 AM

Great story Mickey, and great looking track. 

 

Welcome back! 

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 01:37 PM

With that small of a track, and to compare appel to appel,  consider the 1/32 JK chassis with either the Hawk-25 motor instead of the 40K Hawk-7.  The 25K motor will still be faster than the 20K slotit of fly motors.  The hardbody 1/32 cars will also roll over due to the higher center of gravity.  Our (www.Greatlakesscc.com) club does not use magnets or OEM rubber tires, but DO use silicone tires and lead ballast.


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Posted 12 November 2018 - 02:28 PM

I still don't how you guys can run motors much above 15-17K on such small tracks.    It would seem to me that a 15K motor gear around 4-1 would get you at max rpm on those longest straights.     Maybe then it still wouldn't be wound full.  

 

Isn't the performance better when you have a car set up with a low gear (higher number)  so you  still can get almost max rpm at the end of the longest straights.     With the higher  gear wouldn't the car  pull better out of a corner.  If you geared a 21K motor 4-1 would you ever get to the high range of the motor?

 

I run around 4-1 on my track with motors from 15,500-21k .   At the end of the longest straight (25 foot or so)  I have the smaller motors nearly wound out.  With the faster motors, there is a still a bit left.    The cars drive pretty good.    


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Posted 12 November 2018 - 04:47 PM

Most 'gas powered' gearheads have a hard time accepting is that electric motors make maximum torque right off the line. not at mid to high rpm.  The controller does have to allow you low speed control and the 'right' gear ratio for any given track allows the car to make the fastest lap time and NOT the fastest on the longest straight.  Drivability is the goal.

 

On our club tracks, we try to keep the gear ratios in the stock form - as new.  Some classes do allow aluminum gears and wheels and alternate ratios


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Posted 12 November 2018 - 05:56 PM

JK on clearance sale came with Hawk7. I plan to ditch the magnets for lead in the Slot-its. Guess I am diving into the silicone vs urethane debate. Can’t wait to paint and lay tape so I can test motor/gear combos. Slotblogger, BSCRA and others have been a great help with the track
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Posted 12 November 2018 - 10:08 PM

There's a TON of Slot it Group C Anglewinders for cheap too!! They work great!! Silicone works fine---but if you decide to run them  -- stay with them for the whole day.  Urethane and silicon do not play well together!! :)


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 12:06 AM

Making progress on the track. Slot-its with added lead and silicone tires @10V seems like the most fun. JK Hawk/Cheetahs are like drift racers- spin their spongies all the way around. Having a blast!IMG_0209.JPG
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Posted 29 January 2019 - 12:30 AM

Looks good!  My hiatus was not as long as yours ( '65 - '95) but a lot had changed.  Been back for about 25 years and things are still changing.

 

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 12:30 AM

Dry track work with silicones nicer if the surface is cleaned with a tack cloth.  Sponges like a light layer of traction glue.  Again, too many RPMs make more wheelspin.

Most of the standard 20K plastic 1/32 cars use a 3/1 gearing.  Allowing the torque to work helps cut down on the wheelspin.

 

Our club set races up with equal RPM motors - not run what you brung..


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:00 AM

We run mostly silicone tires, cleaned often with Simple Green or Mean Green. We always glue and true them, it takes hours on a Hudy tire truer to true one set properly. A good motor for this track would be a Piranha motor https://cloverleafra...?cPath=3_12_298. We use them in 24 hour endurance races with no problems and they are only $7.99.


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 02:02 PM

Hi Mike,

 

I got to this thread a little late, I'd like to say "welcome back"!

 

The track is looking great!

 

Will you be adding diorama/ people and scenery?

 

Considering I never loan out my tools, not even to my wife - That's very nice of your wife to allow you to use her tools - LOL

 

I did buy my wife her own "complete set of tools!"

 

 

 

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 10:02 PM

so did I, although she already had quite a few of her own.


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 12:40 AM

More scenics on the way. Will finish painting, add grass,trees etc. Guardrails next. Pit building sketched out. I want to do some racing before spending more time “decorating” ! The wife also has a mini drill press for her Dremel which will be a big help for setting the guardrail posts. I am a lucky man
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