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Posted 18 November 2018 - 07:44 PM

John Gorski Jr. made his mark in the New York and New Jersey area, racing slot cars he assembled from chassis he painstakingly built, inspired by those of the great Robert Emott Jr. This AVS Shadow Can Am car (which never raced in this form in its full size iteration) was a popular subject for vacuum formed body makers in 1969, and John used a Champion body to cover his Kean-modified Champion 535 powered chassis to win an important racing event organized by NAMRA, one of the dominant clubs on the East Coast.
The car survived with a few chassis improvements in one of pioneer Jose Rodriguez's slot car boxes, and we have now sympathetically restored it for display within the ever expanding LASCM collection. The chassis, wheels, tires and gear are original as found, while the motor was assembled from parts. The NOS Champion body was paint matched to John Gorski's description by Joe "Noose" Neumeister.


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Posted 18 November 2018 - 11:07 PM

Let me be the first to congratulate you on another great restoration.  :good:

I can imagine what it was like to be John, so young and so competitive with older fellow racers.

At age14 to15 I was no where near the level at which John was racing, but none the less was beating guys twice my age at my local commercial track with tricks (design innovations) I was leaning from the U.S. mags.

Nice detail on the 6 by the way. G. of course. :dash2: .


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 12:42 AM

 

Nice detail on the #6 (what did that represent ?)by the way.

"G" for Gorski?

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 01:41 AM

Have been studying this chassis for a bit now, and noticed the black rectangle on the brass diagonal just in front of the motor? I am sure there is a simple answer.  

 

Dam it I am confused again. At fist I thought this was the same chassis as in the printed race report and it appears the chassis on the mag,before restoration IS that race chassis.

 

After restoration it has a different drop arm and small (1/4") none hinged side pans at rear and square tubing for the front ISO hinge. It seems to me the restored car is wider also. Judging by the shape of the side pan cut outs and  how close the tires are to the chassis on the race magazine chassis. Are these the few chassis improvements you mention?

 

I think you are saying this is another chassis found in Jose Rodriguez's slot car boxes and is similar (or sympathetically restored ) to the Gorski race chassis.

 

What happened to the race chassis sitting on the magazine next to Johns pic.

 

Go easy on me if I missed something. Not a ball buster just paying attention and enjoy looking at details. :)


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 09:46 AM

i wouldn't think PDL would make any "improvements" to a vintage chassis. I too think it's a different chassis. The un-restored chassis in the 1st photo is probably still waiting to be restored.


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 10:35 AM

Whatever happened to that Gorski kid?

 

...Oh wait :shok:  see here at post #2:

 

http://slotblog.net/...awl-ix-results/

 

 

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 10:42 AM

Bill F, I am not suggesting PDL made any "improvements" I see a beautifully sympathetically restored chassis. But what chassis is it? Its not the one in the magazine.

 

The main question is. What happened to the race chassis sitting on the magazine next to Johns pic."the 1st photo chassis" at first I thought that was the before pic. But clearly I see that there are 2 chassis here but would like more info.


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 10:44 AM

Bill, he looked just like that when I first saw John & his dad at C&C in CT.

 

Martin, i agree with you 100%. I'll wait for Philippe's explanation. :)


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 11:56 AM

It actually is the same chassis, but as we often did in the day, went through rebuilds and improvements after tough racing.  I did not want to alter the later improvements, and left it as found in Jose Rodriguez' NAMRA box, where other cars built by Tony P still reside.


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 03:31 PM

Okay Martin, I interpret this to mean we were confused, either intentionally or unintentionally, by the first photo, because that is not how this chassis was received by the LASCM. :laugh2: It came from another source.


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 09:46 PM

Philippe, If you have time I have a couple of questions.

A different drop arm

small (1/4") none hinged side pans wing-lets at rear

square tubing for the front ISO hinge.

new side pans to make car wider.

Do we know when these changes were made and by whom ?? Was it a 3+" car made into a 3.25" car for a rule change ?

Do we know when the car in first pic (sitting on the magazine) was taken ?

Thanks.


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Posted 20 November 2018 - 06:33 PM

Martin,
you will have to ask John Gorski.


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Posted 20 November 2018 - 08:45 PM

Martin, they're different chassis from the same family of designs. The half rails aren't the same, in addition to the other differences.


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Posted 21 November 2018 - 09:23 PM

 

Do we know when these changes were made and by whom ?? Was it a 3+" car made into a 3.25" car for a rule change ?

 

I did not make the changes. This was the car in the Rodriguez box, with the "G" mark under the drop arm. John told us that yes indeed it was his NAMRA car. So I restored it as he described it but did not change a thing on the chassis. Whatever happened, I do not know... :)
 


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Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:19 PM

Martin,
you will have to ask John Gorski.

Thanks for the update Philippe.

As you suggested, I did reach out to John, his fast response was, he would get back to us after Thanksgiving.

To all on SB have a great Thanksgiving.

 


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Posted 25 November 2018 - 07:48 PM

Mystery resolved. There were TWO cars in that box built by John. I now have the other on hand, that matches the picture.
It will be the next one to go through the process, except that it is so original that the chassis will not even be going through the tumbler. All it needs is its motor, guide, lead wires and a body.

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The one already restored will now join the cars on the LASCM's shelves. It is still a Gorski car after all, built at the same time as his winning car at the Nutley NAMRA race.
 


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 03:09 PM

Great restoration and a great original build as well !!!  Really cool stuff getting worked on here...I've never seen that version of the Shadow either, so it's sort of a double surprise !


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 11:44 PM

Eureka, glad you found it, hate to think it could have been thrown out with the box and packaging (if that's what you are saying?) My worst nightmare. Thanks for the clarification.

 

I struggle with the choice to remove the 50 years of patina. In all but slot cars it is a mistake to polish or tumble. Its a case by case decision, I know. But would love to hear your views on this subject.


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Posted 27 November 2018 - 09:10 PM

We are going to keep the patina, just gently remove any steel corrosion. I have to select bits to built a motor for it, but otherwise it will remain intact.


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