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#1 Jairus

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 05:31 PM

This is the ugly stepsister to the 250 GTO in my opinion.
All the lines were eventually cleaned up by the 3rd version of the 330 but the fact that it did manage to win a few races makes it worthy of a classy build.
So, this will be built as a mid 1960's jaildoor "scale" car!
Meaning, the paint and markings will be accurate as possible to a chassis number and the the wheel diameters and details as close as possible for a running slot car.

Starting with a 1963 Ferrari 250 LM molded by Pactra.
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Power is via a K&B rewind Bobcat motor that remains strong all these years.  But I may... maybe... possibly, swap out the old magnets for some modern parma 16D magnets just because I have a bunch of them.
And they are stronger.
But it feels pretty good as it is so... still considering the options.

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Okay, now we deviate into darker waters... by using some Pro-Track wheels in order to keep the look "Scale".

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Fronts fit a 3/32" axle while the rears fit a 1/8" axle.  Both will be trimmed to the correct length.
The inserts by the way are from a model car kit.
They are two piece and can be found in the 1964 Buick Riviera and the Cushenberry Silhouette model kits by AMT.

As for a guide.... Have a number of vintage options available, as I want this to look as vintage/scale as possible.
Driveable, but not really raceable.
Not these days anyway.

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Hope to have an update each day when possible.
Cutting axles and brass right now so... stay tuned!
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Posted 19 December 2018 - 11:54 AM

Okay, found a car to replicate.
Took me most of one day to read up on all the history and look at pics.
Don't know the chassis number, but the car is #21 which won LeMans in 1965.
And it's... red!
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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:58 PM

Don't know why but I really like this shape Ferrari :D plus ontop of a jaildoor chassis :heart:

That motor looks cool with those "original"? Wire endbell clips..

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 02:15 PM

This is the ugly stepsister to the 250 GTO in my opinion.

:huh:

I think that's a bit cruel Mr. J.

I'm with Paul, I like the 250LM.

The GTO is a pretty :curtsey:  race car, and the LM is a tough looking, 'ball of muscle'  :aggressive: race car...

 

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 02:27 PM

And your opinion of the 330 P3?


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 02:34 PM

Love it :-)

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 04:10 PM

Okay, found a car to replicate.
Took me most of one day to read up on all the history and look at pics.
Don't know the chassis number, but the car is #21 which won LeMans in 1965.
And it's... red!

AKA "David vs Goliath"

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 05:00 PM

1966 Ferrari 330 P3.   The most beautiful race car in the world. Period.  :heat:

 

Just my 2 cents,  :)  :D

 

 

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 05:28 PM

No argument here Miko!

Back at the ranch.... we have a motor bracket.
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Time to bend some rails!
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Posted 19 December 2018 - 05:58 PM

J., I like those Phaze lll  jig wheel rectangles. I still own a set of them. My Phase III chassis jig was history in 1971. :)


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 06:11 PM

What about the 512?

I really love the 250LM.

Thanks for posting.


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 10:03 PM

Main chassis is now done.  Hoping to get a drop arm built tomorrow before work. (Gotta work at the sign shop.)
Back at it Friday.

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Before you ask, the extended rails at the rear are for the exhaust pipes. (Probably need shortening...)
 

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 11:18 PM

And your opinion of the 330 P3?

A pretty ball of muscle.

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 04:07 AM

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What a lot of memories! I was sixteen, I was a slot car (addict)enthusiast dreaming to become a Ferrari's engineer....
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Posted 20 December 2018 - 04:32 AM

Don't know the chassis number, but the car is #21 which won LeMans in 1965.
 

I guess it is #5893


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Posted 20 December 2018 - 11:16 AM

Jochen Rindt wanted to race F-1 that weekend but he was contracted to drive that Ferrari 250LM at Le Mans. He figured if he flogged the car as hard as he could on Saturday, the car might break and he could go race F-1 on Sunday. His plan backfired... the car didn't break.... and he won Le Mans!  LOL


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Posted 21 December 2018 - 08:26 PM

Golly willikers it takes longer to make a drop arm than it does the entire chassis.   :dash2:


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Posted 22 December 2018 - 10:42 AM

What kind of paint/primer will you use on the exhausts, please?

I've never painted brass tubes but maybe I will someday.


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Posted 22 December 2018 - 11:01 AM

Paul,

 

Bet some of Swiss' nickle plated rod with the end painted flat black would look good too.

 

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Posted 22 December 2018 - 11:03 AM

Interesting question I have been pondering myself.
Testors flat enamel flakes off.
Metal etching primer helps.
But "One Shot" is pretty durable.
Might, and this is not in stone, mask and spray the primer and then dip the pipes in the One-Shot.
Then waiting a day to cure.... hit with dullcoat.
Again, that is just a thought at the moment.


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Posted 22 December 2018 - 01:00 PM

Well I think the chassis if finished this morning.   But adjustments seem to 'de rigueur' with my builds.
Assembly is next.
Short nose doesn't provide much guide lead so I ended up using the Cox clip in guide because it pokes out nicely under the nose providing 5/8" lead.

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Going into the tumbler later.
 

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Now... what to do for an interior with the driver on the right side giving clearance for the motor? Hmmmmm
 

Butt shot below....

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Posted 22 December 2018 - 01:18 PM

Very nice...


Yes, to be sure, this is it...


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Posted 22 December 2018 - 03:11 PM

Great looking chassis Jairus.

Exhaust pipes are a nice detail.

Love the drop arm too.


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 11:07 AM

Merry Christmas 2018!
One week of this year left and.... who would have thought I'd still be here playing with toys.

Oh well, it's early and heading out to my brothers for supper later.  Hopefully get to see my grand kids....

Got the Ferrari up on her wheels finally.

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Pulled that little motor apart to clean the com and rust off the stacks.
Then I spread a bit of oil on the stacks to act as a barrier.  Spins up real nice.
Not only was it re-wound very professionally, the wires were tied and the magnets swapped out.  Magnum 44's I think as they had that slot down the center for the keeper wire.  But someone can correct me later.
Regardless, the motor has that satisfying thump, thump, thrump as it is turned by hand.  I liken it to an engine's compression cycle.

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Time to paint those pipes and let it sit a day to dry.
Then mount and paint the body.

Next.... spirits, food, fellowship and family! B:)


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Posted 26 December 2018 - 09:40 PM

What kind of paint/primer will you use on the exhausts, please?

I've never painted brass tubes but maybe I will someday.

I was wondering if using black shrink wrap tubing would be the answer ? Wouldn't scratch. Don't forget to drill holes in the ends first, so it looks like tubing :) I am so helpful :heat:   


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