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#1 SlotStox#53

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 01:22 PM

Just acquired this motor in an epay lot, junk chassis save for the motor and wheels.

Have it on good authority it has a two piece Associated "Mini Max" C can and what appears to be a Mura B can endbell.

NCC20 arm and Champion red/yellow dots..

Has anyone got an original magazine advert for Associated goodies showing the can? Did they make any other parts to go with it say endbell or something?

Is it a good collaboration of parts date/time wise? Or would there be a better, more period korrect arm to fit inside?

Not a great job in positioning and drilling the endbell screw holes! Much to improve on and get right, then decide on a chassis :D



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#2 Bill from NH

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 03:50 PM

I'm not much help Paul, the magnets are Champion DZs, supposedly the same as the later blue & white dots, just with different colored dots. That comm cooler is probably one of the originals sold by John Thorp. I bought a Mura NCC20 arm in 1970, so i assume that's what you have. I don't recall seeing these 2-piece C-cans here in the Northeast. I ran my NCC20 arm in a single hole Mura A-can. There may have been some B-cans around too.


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 04:05 PM

Hi Bill :)

Thanks for the info. I know the NCC20 tagged arms were in the Champion 16Ds and definitely saw them in the late metallic green B can "group 20s".

Have no clue if this is the perfect arm for date wise, but the mags sure have some major "cog" and remember how much FUN the NCC20 B can was :D

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 04:13 PM

I built up a C-can with Associated parts........fun stuff!  :)

 

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Here's a link to the build with Associated ads and pictures of NOS parts:

 

Steube & Cukras at it again!


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 04:48 PM

 but the mags sure have some major "cog" 

When gearing it, just keep in mind the amount of cog is not an indicator of how strong the magnets are.

 

Your top picture is a prime example of slot racing worse idea.

 

The brass pinion gear.


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 05:16 PM

Rick, you're a life saver :D

Remember seeing that build and that you'd used the can, just couldn't find it. Spent a while re-reading a lot of your threads.

Mike, yeah pinion is nasty as is what's left of the dynamic angled spur :shok:

The motor was just loosely strapped into the standard champion NCC20 chassis. Luckily the rigged nature didn't damage the motor bushings.

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 07:04 PM

I thought you might like to see those Associated ads and NOS parts Paul. :victory:


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 11:11 PM

I thought you might like to see those Associated ads and NOS parts Paul. :victory:


Most definitely, thanks Rick! Out of curiosity with the dates of 69/70 for the can and endbell would there be a more korrect armature to put in it? Haven't run it up yet to see if the group 20 is ok..

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 12:11 PM

Paul, I think any period arm could have been used to build up a motor with an Associated setup.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 03:15 PM

Paul, have any Thorp arms you could put in this can?


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 04:13 PM

Paul, have any Thorp arms you could put in this can?

I have one, although I think it's an early one labeled for mabuchi 16D a 27# if i remember :) Not like the hotter ones you see Rick and others use with thick wire, comm tying etc.

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 05:18 PM

Thorp was my arm reconditioner of choice in the early '70s. They did great work with quick turnaround time coast-to-coast. Somehow, I never happened to buy any Thorp arms. it wasn't because they didn't work or I thought others were higher quality. In those days, Ken Stevens, now of Houston, was one of my racing friends in Massachusetts. Ken owned several Thorp arms, most of which I got to run. I'll never forget the power his 23S Thorp had down the straight of the then Framingham Modelville Hobby Sovereign.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:00 PM

Wow, can only imagine the performance of a 23S on that track!! :D

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 01:27 PM

Thorp was my arm reconditioner of choice in the early '70s. They did great work with quick turnaround time coast-to-coast. Somehow, I never happened to buy any Thorp arms. it wasn't because they didn't work or I thought others were higher quality. In those days, Ken Stevens, now of Houston, was one of my racing friends in Massachusetts. Ken owned several Thorp arms, most of which I got to run. I'll never forget the power his 23S Thorp had down the straight of the then Framingham Modelville Hobby Sovereign.

 

I still have my Thorpe arms from back then.  I think I'll dig them out and set them up in some C-can setups I still have.


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