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#1 n.elmholt

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 02:16 PM

I found this strange little motor "kit" in some stuff from and old friend who died some years ago:

 

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There were two sets of "elephants ears" one set in natural alu and on set in gold and black plating.

The can looks "professionally" made with black crinkle finish, but the endbell is clearly a modified Mura item and the magnets look strange.

Here are some closer look at the beast:

 

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Does anybody recognize this and known who made it and for which class and year it was made ??

 

I also found a similar can, but with much smaller magnets. The can was approx. the same size and again i think Mura was the donor for the modified endbell.

 

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any hints ??

 

Niels, DK


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 02:45 PM

This thread might provide some answers:

http://slotblog.net/...identification/

 

Magnets look like plastic cobalts, early 1980s.



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Posted 07 January 2019 - 02:50 PM

Are they cobalt mags?

 

If so, while I don't remember one with a taper, like that, it's probably a Trinity Little Black Box

 

Regardless, with that paint scheme, it's probably a Trinity product.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 03:59 PM

Both look like Camen: Lightning, first, which was followed by the second, the RM640, because the Lightning was a bust.

 

Both designed for Opens. Straps appeared after the RM640.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 04:32 PM

Neither are RM640's.

Those had the can scalloped down the side.

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 05:27 PM

Second look, Mike,  you're right. I think Trinity on the box can because of the heat sinks and what looks like polymer cobalts.

Could also be English Infinity, similar.

 

The round sided motor...if it's not some RM640 variant, no idea.

Edit, maybe a peanut setup like Laster used at P.A.'s race, 1985.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 05:41 PM

Thinking of the Little Black Box, the one I had, had hard cobalt mags, shorter than the height of the can.

Maybe it's a predecessor.

Or the Infinity motor.

I vaguely remember that name, but am not familiar with them.

The motor on the left could possibly be a modified Camen Pony Express, but it's hard to imagine Joel shipping a plastic endbell motor, that doesn't have the endbell dyed purple.

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:00 PM

That endbell looks as if it's got some purple left and the can sure looks like a modified Mabuchi 13D.

If so, it should have polymer cobalts.


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Posted 08 January 2019 - 10:54 AM

Just checked my old junk box, and I think Jim is correct re. motor on left is an Inphinity can. Created by Pete Hore (hence the 'ph' spelling), a very successful UK multiple champion who used to race at my club! He made them around 1980 as a better alternative to the then-popular 13UO can with polymer cobalt mags. Endbell was a cut-down Mura I think. Unfortunately, although they were magnetically good, the cans were weak at the bearing end where there was very little metal between the cooling hole and the end strap.  Cars in those days were built with integral cans soldered to the rear axle tube, and they bent in a big crash. Within another year, the first straps appeared using sintered cobalt mags, and the Inphinity can was history.



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Posted 08 January 2019 - 04:10 PM

Some more stuff:

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