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#26 Pablo

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 09:39 AM

When you see just one cockroach, there are many more  :)

 

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 11:48 AM

Very nice Pablo, a-lot of nice details. Well done :sun_bespectacled: :heart: :heart: :heart:


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Posted 02 April 2019 - 08:45 PM

Thank you :)  I experimented with several lead wire routing combos until I found the perfect one for this chassis.

Highly important they not fail, drag the track, or hinder the body/chassis movements, and I want some gentle flag return centering.

 

Starburst flag with a Parma nut and a single Koford bronze spacer up top. If need be, it can be switched underneath.

All flag rotating surfaces faced with Magnehone, JK flag clips, ARP angled steel pinion, Parma sleeved dyed crown with short hollow set screw, Koford axle, oilite bores hand polished with 2,000 grit sandpaper, all chassis movements oiled, Orings installed, JK motor screws snugged up with a microdot of Loctite 271

 

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Bill will say the "Pablo" engraving is on the wrong side, but if this is all he has to complain about I'm happy  :victory:

 

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 10:38 PM

If you're going to continue hiding the name tag, at least center it, so it doesn't throw-off chassis balance. If this car is intended to be a shelf rester, stick on 6 or 8 tags so at least one shows up without removing the body. I think you should perfect your lettering with a paintbrush. Then, on your next build, you can paint your name on the body & forget about where you're going to be misplacing those brass tags. And people can see who built the car without turning it over & partially disassembling it.

The chassis looks pretty good!

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 10:45 PM

It's on the right side pan to make it hammer the donut on a King track full punch :D  


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Posted 02 April 2019 - 10:57 PM

You still might need to add some lead! :laugh2:


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Posted 03 April 2019 - 05:15 PM

Just a suggestion, have someone,or do it yourself, print some "Built by Pablo" decals that can be used on the inside of bodies with your other decals when you paint. Using decals would probably be cheaper than your brass tags & you'd always be able to have your name out in a visible space. I don't print decals, but it can't be too difficult, Many 1/32 guys make them, even a car's livery, if needed.


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Posted 03 April 2019 - 06:33 PM

I'm happy with my engraved plaques, thanks. Rear oranges on mag rims final trimmed/trued to .880 OD.

Car is done and passes the drivetrain test fine. Time for some paint on the Gene/ZR1 body

 

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 05:19 PM

Body is done, but I'm not proud of my paint efforts. It's a botched job that fails to meet Pablo standards  ^_^  

 

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The Createx Fluorescent orange backed with Faswhite looks nice and decals are fine. But:

 

-Paint scratches off really easily, don't know why, and it's not going to improve as I mount it. Yes, I washed it. No, I didn't etch it before painting. I've painted many bodies with acrylics that I didn't etch and the paint stuck fine. Maybe I sprayed it with too much pressure. Maybe the orange wasn't thoroughly mixed and what got squirted into the cup was too thin. Maybe maybe maybe.
-Efforts to touch up the bald spots just made it worse, and it shows.
-To mask the windshield, I rolled up some paper towel like a cigarette and stuffed it into the crevice. To secure it in place I used a couple microdots of super glue, and thought it would dry clear. Bad idea; maybe white glue would have worked better.
 
For now, I am calling it a learning experience. I won't charge any labor for the body, other than what I paid for the driver and the Gene ZR1 body. I need to mount it and move on....  :pardon:

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 05:56 PM

Maybe touch it up and apply a clear "sealer coat" over everything to make it stay may help??????(Guessing here Mr. Pablo.....  :( )


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Posted 04 April 2019 - 10:11 PM

Have you used these particular bottles of white & orange before? Or were they new bottles? I've used acrylics since 2005. I've not had this problem happen & I don't ever etch anything. I don't have anything more to add, other than ask if you used a hairdryer or other heat source between coats, but even that might not make any difference. If I were you, I'd take some lexan scraps & paint one piece with the orange, a second piece with the white, & a third using the orange backed with the white.. Let them dry for 24-36 hrs., then use a toothpick or a piece of piano wire to see how easy the paint scratches off. Over the years I've picked up a few odds & ends of acrylic paint which I will scratch-test before using. Sometimes it adheres well, other times it doesn't.


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Posted 05 April 2019 - 08:28 AM

Yes, I used the same bottles for the previous Cuc Jaildoor with Billy Watson body and it worked fine.

Yes, I always use a hairdryer for acrylics.

 

I'm over it. It's a body I can get more of. Harpoon this afternoon, track test tomorrow  :)


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Posted 05 April 2019 - 10:15 AM

I've found with this if you don't let it cure for at least 2 days this can be a problem, esp. if you back it with white


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Posted 05 April 2019 - 11:15 AM

Oh well, something different was done., :)


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Posted 05 April 2019 - 12:35 PM

Never heard of having to cure acrylics. Is this a Createx thing? Because the orange is Createx but the white was Parma.


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Posted 05 April 2019 - 05:38 PM

Parma's paint is manufactured by Createx. Some Parma colors seem to have more pigment than the same color with a Createx label. I've never had to "cure' either paint line. Remember the late Frank Valentine on OWH? He was a strong proponent of the Delta Ceramcoat paints. I tried some & it didn't adhere well. So i talked to Frank & he said it needed to dry 3 or 4 days. When I allowed it dry for this period, it stuck to lexan like a gorilla. Was this "curing"? I concluded Delta was a good body paint, but for one-color paint jobs.


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Posted 05 April 2019 - 05:42 PM

Don't know about Parma but Createx is what I use and it scratches very easily if you don't let it cure. But each to his own.


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Posted 05 April 2019 - 06:12 PM

Red, have you tried using a hairdryer or other heat source to set the paint between coats? I find that important to do when painting a body with more than one-color.


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Posted 05 April 2019 - 08:29 PM

I'll be asking about Createx and Parma paints tomorrow; both Red and Bud use them.

The important news is, the body is trimmed and pinned to the Pablo car, ready for testing tomorrow

 

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Posted 05 April 2019 - 08:42 PM

Bill; I prefer to use the sun but if that's not possible I use a hair dryer. If I try to trim or mount a body on the same day I paint it scratches very easy. 


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Posted 05 April 2019 - 09:28 PM

Okay, I understand what you're doing. You're doing it right. I don't paint & mount a body the same day either. I often use masks for painted numbers. Most times I don't paint them until a second day either.


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Posted 07 April 2019 - 09:37 AM

Track test results: Excellent!

-nice smooth power that is reminiscent of the late 60's, scoots real well (you can always slap a Hawk 7 in it)

-plenty of brakes

-handles fine, no bad habits, drifts real nice. 

-needs an additional 10 thou flag spacer

-paint issue needs fixing

 

The "lack of drying time/curing" theory on why the paint scratches off has been eliminated, since it's been 3 days and it still comes right off. My new theory is I may have used the same toothbrush I used for cleaning a motor and it fouled the surface with magnet smegma residue  :pardon: That's my new story and I'm "sticking" to it  :laugh2:


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Posted 07 April 2019 - 02:03 PM

If it's not the material, it has to be the process used.


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Posted 07 April 2019 - 03:09 PM

Concur. Stand by for a new paint job. 

 

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Posted 07 April 2019 - 04:01 PM

When you were testing the Cucaracha at the track the other day, I think some got loose and now the track is infested with them. I need to call the exterminator.


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