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#1 sportblazer350

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 07:41 PM

For many years i have used Plafit Cheetah-II or Cheetah-IV motors on a series of vintage anglewinder cars with good results, but I see that these are either no longer available or sold out wherever I look online.

 

Does anyone know of a current small can replacement motor in the 35,000-37,000 RPM range that I can buy? 


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Posted 03 May 2019 - 09:36 PM

JK mini-brute is advertised as 40K rpms


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:18 AM

https://www.ebay.it/...4wAAOSwHlRbtpm9
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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:44 AM

This guy has been the Australian Plafit distributor for years and has stock. American exchange rate is in your favour.. and he mails anywhere. 

https://www.acehobbies.com.au/


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 09:27 AM

John, i know of the JK Minibrute, a tad too much power for what i want to do as we will be racing vintage era jaildoor type chassis and i don't want them to go too fast and cause damage to the frames, and since we already race retro Jaildoor with those motors, i want these cars to be a different racing experience.

Kim- thanks for that link, perfect for all of my Plafit motor, chassis, and all other parts needs! I love the Plafit adjustable chassis, perfect for my hardbody builds. 


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 09:08 PM

The Hawk 25 is a 25k motor, so a bit less zip.  Just trying to point out motors that are readily available through distributor channels, and therefore available through your local raceway


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 06:39 AM

thanks John, yes i know about the Hawk 25 as well, as that is the motor we use in our Hardbody racing series. I too want to have our raceway (The Race Place) to be able to sell us a motor. 


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 02:38 PM

Well, you are hard to please! :laugh2:   I get it, you need something "in between".  What about some of the replacement motors for the plastic 1/32 cars?  Any of those fill the bill?


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 09:02 PM

John, not hard to please just this: i have bult two vintage chassis and bodied Can-Am anglewinder cars using period chassis, original and one reissue body, and the new at the time Plafit Cheetah-II motor rated at 37,000 rpms, and they still perform great today. I built these cars about 15 years ago, and these two cars are the basis for our next class to race.  I raced Retro Jaildoor with the Hawk 40k motor, and that would be a bit too much, i think, for these older chassis, as i do not want to wreck them. Our vintage races are for fun, and we don';t want to trash our vintage cars, just have fun. The Retro classes, using new motors, are ok as these cars are built to be raced. Vintage cars being raced now are for nostalgia vs competition. also I want the vintage anglewinder cars to be different than a Retro Jaildoor new car. If the Plafit motors were commonly available, there would be no issue for me. As far as 1/32 plasticar motors, i don't think that they will hold up as they are made for small plastic track racing. Hey- i could be wrong on all of this too!!  I guess I will have to experiment with motors and gearing, start from scratch, so to speak, in order to get this class going. Too bad, because I have a few CheetahII motors still new, ready to be used. 


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 09:18 PM

I agree with John.

 

You seem hard to please. LOL

 

Mid-American Hardbody Series Racers are real happy with the below;

 

Advertised as 37K, please don't sue me if the driving characteristics don't exactly mimic the Cheetah motors ;

 

https://www.proslot....p?part=PS-4001S


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Posted 07 May 2019 - 12:28 AM

FYI, the PS 4001S is ceramic magnet neutral timing (0 advance) with very light springs and rebuildable if needed. Also sold without the purple seal.  It also snaps into all FC-130 plastic slot cars like Ninco NC-1, etc.


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Posted 07 May 2019 - 06:10 AM

Just kidding around Glenn, that's why I used the laugh emoticon   :laugh2:

 

That's actually a class I would be interested in as I have a few vintage late 60's-early 70's production anglewinders I would like to get on the track.  It sure beats letting them collect dust, which is what they have been doing since 1972.  The original motors have a lot more snot, considering the bottom end was grp 12, which is the same basic wind spec that class uses today (although in a much more refined form..those original motors weren't even balanced).  That Pro_Slot motor does sound like something worth trying.  

 

I'll definitely try to make a race for these cars, as long as it's a weekend...The Race Place and Dom's are both too far for a weeknight.  Keep me posted on your progress on this, and let me know if I can provide and help with testing


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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:07 AM

Me too.

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:30 AM

thanks fellas, I really appreciate any help offered. I think that I will order one of these ProSlot motors, have used their motors in the past and they were good. I liked the Plafit motors as they were inexpensive and sealed, so not much chance for cheaters (hate to use that word!).

 

John- if you want to test some cars, please do, it would be a help. The vintage races at Dom's, next is this Saturday, are on Saturdays, every other month; the other  races at The Race Place are the Thursday night races. The vintage race this Saturday at Dom's Raceway will be 36D production chassis cars, any body, inline or sidewinder only. Second race will be the American Line Sporstsman/hot rod kit cars that use K&B 36D motors. Hope you can make it. If you can, bring along any anglewinder cars that we will race as described above. 


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Posted 07 May 2019 - 08:27 AM

Mike and Larry- yes I found this exact model ProSlot motor years ago. I went down to my parts bins and found them, found another nickel plated 70's anglewinder chassis, so a new build is in the works for testing. Thanks for showing me this motor that I had forgotten about. 


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