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#1 Martin

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:24 PM

This chassis was found on e-bay for 10 bucks.(just my bid) I felt like It had potential as a base for a Thingy.

It has a 4.5" w.b. and what really peaked my interest was the continuous pair of tubes that start at the front axle and go rearward, picks up the rear axle rods, then loops over the motor to finally bend out to act as  body mounts. Quite the roller coaster design. At some point I would like to try and bend up piano wire and use this chassis as inspiration.

The straight tube, front body mount, is 3'' wide.

I need help with ideas for the guide mount and what motor does this fit.  Bracket is 3/4" tall, screw holes 1/2'' apart. Bearing hole is 5/16'' ??

On further inspection the lower rails are bigger meaning the continuous rod that goes over the motor inserts into that lower straight tube and is soldered at the back of the motor mount.

Any input is welcome, I look forward to bringing this discarded work back to life.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:46 PM

Martin, I looked at that chassis a couple ties, but not too closely. From this perspective, the motor mounting plate looks like it fits a 26D .I recall Classic including 2 similar looking plates with each of their 3 26D motors. I thought that front plate was cut out to put a guide behind the front axle, but it would have to  be a small one, Didn't Monogram & others use small guides on their 1/32 slot cars?


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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:59 PM

Cool piece.

It might be for a Hemi.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 01:03 PM

Thanks Bill/Mike, the shape cut into the front axle plate had me stumped. I had not thought this could be for a guide. I was stuck on the Idea that it was for a drop arm.

So then if you are correct the guide would not turn. Is this a drag chassis?

I will look for a motor that fits.


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Posted 31 May 2019 - 02:32 PM

Just ahead of the front body out tube there are two small drilled upright tabs.  Their position suggests that they are drop arm pivots


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Posted 31 May 2019 - 03:14 PM

Also Alan, another set of pivots behind those that have been added. What could they have been used for?

This is why I reached out for your opinions. It never fails that I come away from these conversations with new direction.

Thanks to all.


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Posted 01 June 2019 - 06:36 AM

It could CLEARLY have some weird made drop arm that would extend the guide shoe well past the front axle. (I can kind of picture in my head of what it would have to look like???? :mda: )


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Posted 01 June 2019 - 07:44 AM

Just guessing the front brass section is some kind of modified drop arm.   I haven't looked, but could it be Monogram or Revell?   Obviously the guide part is gone.   Could a new drop arm have been fabricated to fit on top of the frame and anchored by the two upright tabs?


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Posted 01 June 2019 - 10:27 AM

I thinks the soldered in axle support is from this monogram car as you say Matt.

I can make a drop arm that fits that key hole shape and extends forward past the axle as you imagine Mike.

Not sure why it is that shape or why there is another hinge behind the straight body mount tube?

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Posted 01 June 2019 - 10:40 AM

These pics may help? and show that it is made from two parts.

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Posted 04 June 2019 - 01:36 PM

This pic is from and ebay listing.    The top brass piece looks like the piece in your frame Martin.    I thought it was Revell, but I'm not sure.

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Posted 04 June 2019 - 02:48 PM

That's it. Good find eagle eye.

Now what car is it from I wonder?


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Posted 04 June 2019 - 05:23 PM

There's a second one of those pieces in the middle of that picture.


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Posted 04 June 2019 - 06:48 PM

That is correct, with a mating part on the right that would screw to the motors endbell.

 

I for one have never seen this chassis before.


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Posted 16 November 2020 - 06:49 PM

That car is Auto Hobbies


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Posted 18 November 2020 - 11:09 AM

Thanks Isaac, I could not find a pic of one. But at least it is named now. Have to drag it out and turn it to a car some day.


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Posted 19 November 2020 - 01:58 PM

Martin, here's a similar one found by Rick (DC65X) on ebay a few years ago and very kindly given to me as a gift. It was just the 1/32 chassis (I think), and I finished it up and mounted it under a Lola Ford body. 

 

All one continuous tube on each side... like a paper clip! 

 

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 01:11 PM

That's very clever. Would be cool to try something "inspired by"

This one looks like it was inspired by a trombone.


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Posted 21 November 2020 - 01:17 PM

I think that's the way Rick described it to me in fact... ah, wait, "trombone" is French for paper clip, I mixed them up - it's a paper clip. 

 

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 02:10 PM

Today I found out the French word for “paperclip” is “trombone”.

The word trombone originally comes from the Italian “tromba”, which comes from the same Latin word, “tromba”, both retaining the same meaning: trumpet.  In this case, the ending with the added “one” (tromb-one), indicates “large”.  So, essentially, trombone means “large trumpet”.  This has been the name of the instrument in Italy likely since its creation, which is probably around the early 15th century.

Thanks for the word knowledge. I love to learn the origin of words. :)


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Posted 22 November 2020 - 05:15 PM

Glad to help. 


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Posted 01 December 2020 - 07:38 PM

Here are the pieces for the front end of the Revell chassis shown in pic #10DSC_0908.JPG DSC_0907.JPG


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Posted 01 December 2020 - 09:50 PM

Thanks for the pic Al, I will keep my eyes open for that drop arm.


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