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#1 swodem

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 07:49 AM

I found I had one of these and might give it a try

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So I have cleaned it up...

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...and now need some setup tips

Please point me to any known threads on these, or PM me your secrets ;-)



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Posted 10 June 2019 - 12:09 PM

Don't bother. They are junk
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Posted 10 June 2019 - 03:46 PM

I have had fun with these in the past....It was a moment in time when I discovered this chassis, 64 pitch gears and tire grip/glue/goo.....all kinda simultaneously.

 

 

With an FK motor they handle great.

 

My main tip is to solder the motor in and brace that back end/motor/transmission area.


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Posted 10 June 2019 - 03:56 PM

We had the steel versions when I started racing. We ran a class called "outlaw".

wing bodies, with the 3/4" o-rings in front protruding to the sides - they had 1/8" front axles then, though, orange tires in the rear, and up to a mura wasp motor inside. We liked 64 pitch Faas gears in them too.

 

No, they don't handle great - but you make the best of it. the wings help.


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Posted 10 June 2019 - 05:02 PM

I agree with Munter.  


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Posted 10 June 2019 - 05:35 PM

I haven't found my I-32's yet, but I did find a Euro-Toy. Pla-fit Cheetah motor. Silicone coated foam tires, (not fully scuffed in). Plastic home set track, (Revell, Carrera and Scalextric). Betta Mazda 737(?) body.

 

Great fun!

 

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 06:05 PM

Steve,
If you are looking for a good brass anglewinder chassis, try contacting Tracy Chin, on FB.

I had a bunch of chassis CNC cut, with top quality brass, that were made to emulate the popular Demon chassis.

I've driven one with a Falcon 7, and a low down force, 1/32nd Ti22 body, and it handles great on my twisty,'Fiedler Flat' track.

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 06:20 PM

Demons were always a better handling chassis than the Int. 32, but they bent easier too. The Italians also made a brass 1/32 F1 chassis that AB Slotsports sold.


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Posted 10 June 2019 - 11:23 PM

We had the steel versions when I started racing. We ran a class called "outlaw".

wing bodies, with the 3/4" o-rings in front protruding to the sides - they had 1/8" front axles then, though, orange tires in the rear, and up to a mura wasp motor inside. We liked 64 pitch Faas gears in them too.

 

No, they don't handle great - but you make the best of it. the wings help.

The STEEL frame came out at the same time as the I-32 -(which used 64p gears/1/16" front axle).  The steel only used 48pitch gears and 1/8" front axle.  I recall Steve Kemp designed these after the 'Italian frame could not be had.  Parma lost out on that one and Proslot developed the 'Demon' based on the Italian brass frame.  Around Chicago, we ran a 1/32 stamped sports series with Betta bodies, Super Wasp (ultimately strap Grp 12) with the Eurotoy, I-32, and Demon.  Spring steel JK frames replaced the stamped frames in later 1990s.

 

These are still fun and do not bend as easy when you use a JK Hawk-25 or similar motor.


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 07:19 AM

Here is 2 , 1/32 Shinoda's using the Parma 1/32 International chassis, the other chassis I forgot the name.

I made the body molds in 1\32 scale to accept these standard chassis.

Put in a Super 16D or what ever you have, they go pretty fast and handle pretty good for a weekend project build out of left overs.

 

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 12:23 PM

We ran the Parma International 32 chassis in IMCA for the 1/32nd production class with Gp-12 motors before the

Pro-Slot Demon came out. With the right reinforcing, they were pretty fast. You had to know how to set them up. A

1/4 inch square of 1/16th thick lead in the two front corners made the car a different animal. But this is coming from

someone who used to love 1/32nd F-1 Eurosport. 


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 07:50 AM

IIRC, we also ran them with Gp-12 motors at the old Speedzone in Hightstown NJ and at The Race Place in the 90's...


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 03:31 PM

Here are the three types of chassis we ran in IMCA, just as I ran them.

 

 

 

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The Eurotoy is on the left. i did not add reinforcement to this steel chassis. The Parma International 32 is in

the center. What you can't see is the piece of 3/32nds brass tubing soldered next to the motor that connects

the motor to the chassis center section, making the motor can the reinforcing member. Never found the need

to put a crossmember joining the rear axle uprights. The Pro-Slot Demon is on the right. The reinforcing

piece, 1/16th piano wire, can be seen joining the motor and the two uprights. The Demon had the most

incidents of center section bending at the narrow area behind the motor of the three. Using the motor can

as the strengthening point seemed to work just fine on the Parma. Otherwise use of lead where you see it

worked fine for me. All motors are GP-12.


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 04:07 PM

Eurotoys are cadmium plated. Long term exposure to cadmium can lead to cadmium poisoning. As I recall, you don't want to breath in fumes of heated cadium & acid flux. 

 

Dave, your cars all appear to be in nice enough condition to still be raced. We ran both coupe & open cockpit bodies on these chassis with Falcon or Cheetah motors in the early 2000's. Later, JK came out with some 1/32 GT-1 bodies with the stepped rear spoilers..


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 04:33 PM

i too have both the Demon and Intl32 chassis cars with Plafit motors and they run great on 1/32 and 1/24 plastic club tracks with silicone rears. And also fine on commercial tracks. 


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 12:57 PM

In the home racing club I belonged to we also ran Demons with hard 1/32nd bodies. We made the Pro-Slot 4001

motor with the Chinese arm the spec motor. We also required scale front wheels and tires. As most of the members

changed to routed tracks, we wanted something a little more exciting to race, and this combo fit the bill. The body

on this car is the MRC Toyota LMP. 

 

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 11:37 PM

Later Eurotoys came to the USA from South America not cadmium plated, but in a black oxide (?) coating.  Either way, you had to clean it off to solder to the steel.

Professor Motor has offered some in recent years nickel plated.


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 03:09 AM

That brings back memories. When I started racing again in France in 1992, our production class was the Parma International 32 chassis, an odd Italian "sealed" motor called the SME and Betta bodies. 

 

They handled pretty well in fact, but not straight out of the bag: if I remember right, you had to carefully straighten and align them, and the guys who were bending the rules were also bending the chassis a bit to get a lower center of gravity, even tho that was illegal. Then lots of lead and a 13t pinion! 

 

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:48 AM

The few times I raced these (Parma I 32) on flat tracks in Northern California I found I had to put a big chunk of lead on the side opposite the motor to balance the car side to side due to the motor being so offset.  Seemed to handle decently once I did that.


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