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#1 mdiv

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 06:52 PM

Evening bloggers,

 

Picked up a sweet sweet champion group 20 arm from eBay.  Looking for a NIP setup to put it in, which seems hard to find!  Got a feeler out to NCP Hobbies but they are hit or miss.

 

Message me if you have one, thank you friends!

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 07:29 PM

What year?


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 09:15 PM

Hi Nick,

 

I'm guessing '80s?  

 

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 09:23 PM

Here's a picture of the arm in packaging for reference:

 

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 09:55 PM

Champion C-cans and endbells were out of production in the mid-'70s. Today's drag guys might have what you want.


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 09:57 PM

This guy has some champion c cans he also seems to put up a grp 7 champion motor every few weeks.
https://rover.ebay.c...tm/233171982699

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:33 AM

That arm looks older than 80's.

I have some thing from the 80's that we raced, I will look.


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 08:24 AM

I agree.

At only $7.49, it has to be older than the 80's.

When I got back into racing, in late 81, IIRC, a Mura G15 arm sold for $19.15.

That arm is probably from the early 70's.

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 10:48 AM

Yeah, the arm looks like 1970's vintage to me...but I'll leave the definitive answer to the experts.   As for the setup, you can find the cans on eBay from time-to-time.  I'm not sure what the "correct" can would be, but I've found the folded-and welded type more often than the one-piece type.  I *think* the end bells were virtually identical to the Mura C can end bells, but without the "MURA" molded on the inside.  It shouldn't be too hard to cobble together a functioning setup for the arm.  Both the Champion or the Mura in clean condition are getting pretty scarce.  In super-clean or (gasp!) NOS condition, even more so.


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 12:08 PM

The white powder-coated cans shown above were made by Mura to be sold by Champion. I don't know what they used for endbells, maybe Mura's. The endbells & endbell hardware sold by Champion to fit their drawn C-cans was of a lower quality than the endbells sold by Mura. As a result, most east coast motor builders in the 70's used Mura endbells on their C-cans. I still have the jig I made to fit the endbells to the cans.


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 12:20 PM

This the Champion can that I raced in the late 80's.

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 02:38 PM

Is the arm "tagged" in anyway?
Most arms after 1970 were tagged NCC20 and those went into Champion "D" cans like the Orange Picker and such.

A "C" can 20 wind later in '71 through 73 might not even be tagged.

 


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 04:19 PM

These are all tagged NCC20, have many more.

Do not know exactly what your looking for, a photo would help.

ncc20.jpg


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 04:42 PM

Hello all, thank you for the replies.

 

I found a setup that dc-65x sent me a few years back, picture below.  It has no magnets so I'll see if Jerry at The Race Place will build it up for me, if not, hrmmm.... ;)

 

About the arm:  I took it out of the package and it looks like it has a homemade tag on it!  Can't read anything on it, though...

 

mura_setup_no_magnets.jpg

 

This may make for an interesting motor...

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 05:34 PM

These are all tagged NCC20, have many more.

Do not know exactly what your looking for, a photo would help.

attachicon.gifncc20.jpg

 

 

Are any of the motors for sale Gene?

 

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 06:56 PM

Gene's motor with the pinion installed, at the top of his photo, is one that uses a Champion can, endbell, & endbell hardware.

 

Mike, your setup from dc-65x is a Mura "Green" C-can. It should build into a fine motor.


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