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#1 Eddie Fleming

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Posted 05 August 2019 - 06:59 PM

Looking at these bodies I am seeing mountings with the wheel arches cut in rather creative locations and in some cases wheels that overhang outside the arch by a lot moving the body forward from what I would call the normal position. The VFC chargers have  huge openings any way so location has some room for play, but other brands not so much.

 

So the question is what is the current acceptable Retro stock car body positioning?

 

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Posted 05 August 2019 - 07:13 PM

Not trying to be a pain, but you'd probably get a better answer by placing the thread in the exact ruleset sub forum you are referring to.

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Posted 05 August 2019 - 07:17 PM

seems to me that I'd rather have it further back than forward.


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Posted 05 August 2019 - 07:25 PM

Thanks Steve but I am not so much asking if you would move it forward or back but rather how much can and do you move the body forward or back placing the wheels outside the molded in wheel arches.


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Posted 05 August 2019 - 07:29 PM

sorry about that.  I don't know the exact rules. was just scratching head.


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Posted 05 August 2019 - 07:42 PM

Wheels have to fit within the openings. Bodies are made to fit 4.5 inch wheelbase. The best way to mount the body is to either center the front wheels in the opening or to place the guide close to the front bumper. You need to make sure that the body does not rub on the wheels.

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Posted 05 August 2019 - 07:52 PM

Hi Eddie,

I just cut and mounted 3 of the VCF Chargers in a row.

I find that the front wheel openings line up pretty well if cut out in the middle.

The rear wheel opening locations are too far forward. I always end up cutting out more towards the rear of the molded opening.

I always use the guide flag location to guide me.
The guide flag should fall about 1/4 back from the body.
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Posted 05 August 2019 - 07:53 PM

Hi Eddie,

 

Unfortunately that is how the VFC Charger is. New or old, the rear wheel well locations are terrible. Additionally we are limited by a cut line rule so you are stuck with the wheel rubbing overhang. There are creative methods to stop the body from rubbing...but blah.

 

The new Red Fox Charger is a dream to mount. Wheel well openings are simple and you do not / cannot cut it on the lower door line. The front cow catcher allows for the guide to be positioned properly and thus allowing for a better wheel well placement.

 

The Parma Cyclone is the perfect fitting retro stock car body proportionately in my opinion, but the charger excels over it on the track.


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Posted 06 August 2019 - 06:43 AM

Same problem with the O/S Talladega Torino.


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Posted 06 August 2019 - 03:08 PM

Eddie

 

If you go on FB and under Gary Clinton March 11 He shows you in detail how he mounts the Stock cars for Keith Libby 

 

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 06:00 PM

I think it is pretty specific in the IRRA rules if I'm not mistaken.


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Posted 06 August 2019 - 06:28 PM

I think so too Red.


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Posted 06 August 2019 - 09:24 PM

A reason many are tough is the use of the Red Fox guides which are a bit longer than Parma, Koford, Cahozas, etc.

I mounted up two of the latest VFC ones today. No problem but yes the body sits a bit forward to cover the guide.


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 09:16 AM

Thanks for the shout out Jason.

Eddie you can contact me with any questions regarding stock car mounting.
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Posted 07 August 2019 - 10:52 AM

Thanks Gary I appreciate it, but I was not asking how to mount a body.

 

I was asking for opinions on how far is acceptable in moving the body forward or back in relation to the molded in wheel positions.


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 05:22 PM

With VFC and Parma Charger bodies they like to be mounted as far back as possible so the guide barely clears. I have not mounted the Red Fox yet.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 03:23 PM

Ok here is my RF Charger.

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08bcfc85efbe87e9dd3be33675e99d0f.jpgYou need to trim bottom a bit below the cut line. Mine angles a wee bit from rear to front. The fronts are more covered but plenty of room
Underneath. Distance on rear is about 1/8th below cut line angling to around 1:16th
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