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#1 Tangmere

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Posted 27 August 2019 - 05:26 PM

I've been into slots now for around 25 years (I'm 59) and I got my start with Scalextric, etc and stayed with modern slots ever since. Well, I've gotten into 1/32 vintage slots these last handful of years because of a vintage club I run with and then started looking for vintage 1/24. I've around 7 Cox and was quite happy with them then I "discovered" Tamiya slot cars. I've built their plastic kits for decades and run their R/C products for a a while too but didn't know they made these too. Anyway, this was an unpainted, complete body and chassis with rock hard foamies. I took everything off, sanded a bit here and there, painted it in a fantasy livery, reassembled, and shot with coats of flat clear.

 

How I wish someone made silicones for vintage cars...

 

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Posted 27 August 2019 - 05:47 PM

Love the flat clear look nice decal choice too.

Is this a re-released body and or a body and chassis from the 60s? There are plenty of the re-released body's available in 4 or 5 styles.

I know someone here will know where to get silicone's, I have seen them.


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Posted 27 August 2019 - 05:56 PM

Thanks! It's all original including the body. I think the re-releases are for the in-lines (3 body posts as opposed to 4 for the sidewinders which I have).


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Posted 27 August 2019 - 09:02 PM

A guy in France sells some 1/24 silicones for vintage wheels.  Haven't tried them yet, but will soon.  Will try to find and share the link.  We use Ortmann urethanes with good results.  Key is to true, then "polish".  True any way you like, then get some very fine emery cloth and lightly wet-sand.


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Posted 27 August 2019 - 09:29 PM

A guy in France sells some 1/24 silicones for vintage wheels.  Haven't tried them yet, but will soon.  Will try to find and share the link.  We use Ortmann urethanes with good results.  Key is to true, then "polish".  True any way you like, then get some very fine emery cloth and lightly wet-sand.

 

Is this Brad from PM? If so, you've already sent me the link to the guy from France.

 

Thanks, Mark


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Posted 28 August 2019 - 07:18 AM

:D


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Posted 28 August 2019 - 07:29 AM

Great job!! I love these Tamiya slot car bodies. We race a Can-Am and Gran Sport class that these bodies fit into. We use modern chassis - Scholer, Scale Auto, Slotting Plus or Plafit. These cars run great!! They are low and light. Below are a few images that include my 906 and Ron's Lola T70 and Lotus as well as Mark's Lotus (Mark's Lotus has a custom brass and wire chassis with small rear wheels and O-ring fronts). For more images see the link and cursor down and select the class you want to inspect.  http://slotblog.net/...aceway-classes/
 
 
 

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 09:57 AM

Rich,

Nice cars! Our vintage club is trying out 1/24 for the first time. Hopefully, this'll become a regular occurrence.


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 04:47 PM

i have seen new silicones and urethanes for vintage wheels on Ebay and a variety of slot cars/parts websites, such as offered by Super Tires and other makers. With a bit of searching you can easily find them.


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 05:14 PM

i have seen new silicones and urethanes for vintage wheels on Ebay and a variety of slot cars/parts websites, such as offered by Super Tires and other makers. With a bit of searching you can easily find them.

 

I have as well but the vast majority is for 1/32 cars. I've contacted SuperTires directly and there isn't enough interest in vintage 1/24 for them to make the moulds.


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 06:42 PM

Professor Motor has these silicones plus other sizes...

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 07:58 PM

Those will fill the wheel wells up real nice.


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 09:01 PM

Professor Motor has these silicones plus other sizes...

:huh:

 

Thanks but I can't use those. Rules say I have to use stock period rims plus those are for 1/8" axles, Tamiya uses 3mm.


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 09:06 PM

The last time you posted, I told you there was someone you can contact to nicely mold silicones onto any 1/24 hub.

 

$25 a pair, & shipping charges back to you.


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 09:31 PM

Brad if you  guys are talking about Slot Car Tyres made in France by Bruno, they are excellent, as nice as any made, but they are urethane, not silicone.    They are nicely made in a full mold so they are rounded on front and back.   He makes them for any vintage car you can think of.   1/24 or 1/32.


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Posted 30 August 2019 - 07:15 AM

Is this Bruno?

 

https://aeroslot.pag...am-s/index.html

 

As I have different silicones for making resin part molds, and black dye, I have thought about making a urethane mold and casting silicone tires.  No time in the past but perhaps I need to make the time!


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Posted 30 August 2019 - 08:39 AM

Brad,

I don't think that site is the same as 

 

http://www.slotcarstyres.com

 

These are urethane,  great fit and great sizes.    I use them on a lot of cars that set on the shelf.     Being urethane they don't grip  real good on my track, as we run silicone on most everything.   If we ran urethane only, they would probably be as good as you would want.

 

Not being fluent in French, I can't tell from the Aero site if they are urethane or silicone.    I would be interested in knowing if anybody has used them and if they are silicone.       

 

I see more than a few people think urethane and silicone are the same, which they aren't and don't really mix good on any of the tracks I have had.   

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Posted 30 August 2019 - 04:59 PM

Brad, I checked out  the tire procedure you mentioned a few years ago.   The Smooth On people tech people told me that the urethane will cure fine in a silicone mold

 

They said if I tried pouring silicone in a urethane mold that it wouldn't cure.   I know George always machined aluminum molds for his Indy Grips.  He always made the tires slightly under size.

 

   I tried making  mold with resin plastic and then pouring silicone in the resin mold.   That works, but the tires are the exact same size as the original and are not a really a tight enough fit on the rims.    I tried various silicone adhesives to glue them and never had the adhesion I wanted.   

 

George made me a couple universal molds that I could put a wheel in and hold it tight with an axle  thru a center hole in the aluminum mold.    You could then pour the silicone right on the wheel.   That worked great, but he also sent me some kind of pricey primer that I painted on the wheels before I poured the silicone and the silicone really stuck to that primer.     

 

That's been 15-20 years ago and there my be some newer stuff that would work,     Some of this requires a little more precision than  is my usual standard.


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Posted 30 August 2019 - 06:05 PM

Thanks Matt!  Back to the drawing board...

 

Or, we find out what Mike's lead is up to!


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Posted 30 August 2019 - 06:49 PM

The last time you posted, I told you there was someone you can contact to nicely mold silicones onto any 1/24 hub.

 

$25 a pair, & shipping charges back to you.

 

My bad, I missed your last post on my earlier tyre thread (notifications are turned off). Yes, I'd be interested in a few pairs.


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Posted 30 August 2019 - 11:41 PM

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Posted 08 September 2019 - 05:33 PM

My old Cox Lotus 40; scratch built chassis.

 

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Posted 08 September 2019 - 06:58 PM

Todd, what's the approximate age of that chassis? I recognize  the Ferret motor bracket, but are the brass pans & nose plate thicker than .062?


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Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:07 PM

Hi Bill,

 

Built 2000. .090 brass


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Posted 11 September 2019 - 06:00 PM

Thanks Todd. :)


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