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#1 gatormark

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 03:42 PM

What are these motors designated as, i.e. C-can?
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Posted 03 September 2019 - 03:48 PM

FK series.

 

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 03:49 PM

Trash can. :)
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Posted 03 September 2019 - 04:36 PM

Mini-can.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 07:06 PM

Bill, that made me laugh!!!
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Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:50 PM

I prefer Pete Zimmeran's,"Damn toothbrush motors!"


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Posted 04 September 2019 - 09:00 PM

See "Mabuchi" designs.  "F" is the can size.  'FK-' is the metal endbell with the funky angle brush orientation.  'FC-' is the one that uses a plastic enbell with the brushes in normal slot car orientation.

 

My opinion:  The Proslot 4000 series F can should rightfully be called an FC since it DOES snap into an FC-130 motor mount sold by the 1/32 'homeset' slotcar industry.   The FK series has different mounting requirements.


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Posted 04 September 2019 - 10:03 PM

F=flat can


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 07:51 PM

Laugh if you will but they more than likely the saving grace to a hobbie thats dying as each slot racer passes on. Affordability means sustainability.
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Posted 10 September 2019 - 08:01 PM

Having used for the last 5years Dcan, Ccan and Fcan it’s my view that Fcan is actually the most expensive in the long run

Because they are so cheap, racers buy many to tried and find the fast freak, and being sealed makes this worse as there isn’t too much possibility of fixing any issues with proper blueprinting

So the frustration runs high in the experienced who participate

I’ve never seen this in C or D can classes

So you may say it’s saved the racing, many others will differ
The true issue is there isn’t enough newcomers to have their own beginners only class using these cheap motors below their max capability, so even the experienced guys have to use them

Anyone who has refreshed a motor and puts it on the track to having it run sweet and responsive again knows the value in blueprinting.


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Posted 11 September 2019 - 05:29 AM

Correct me if Im wrong but from what I see 80% of the flexi and group F wing guys run these motors. Now if some clown wants to buy 50 hawk 7s to find one to put him on the podium I think he needs to look at at the return on investment strategy LOL.
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Posted 11 September 2019 - 10:08 AM

The simple solution is to ban cheap motors from all racing classes and relegate them to only being used in Ready-to-Run cars.  :crazy: 

Customer: "OK, I want to enter my first race".

Race Director: "Sorry, no can do until you buy this motor that costs more than your car".

 

Or not.


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Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:07 PM

In what group class does a motor cost more than a rolling race ready car?
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Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:36 PM

Correct me if Im wrong but from what I see 80% of the flexi and group F wing guys run these motors. Now if some clown wants to buy 50 hawk 7s to find one to put him on the podium I think he needs to look at at the return on investment strategy LOL.


Unfortunately this could happen in any class with someone that has deep pockets.
Does not happen too often. There are 8 heats / chances for Murphy's law to come into play.
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Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:56 PM

 "In what group class does a motor cost more than a rolling race ready car?"

 

All of them except for Group F...WRT "race motors".

 

Even with Group F there's the never ending search for the best sealed motor, which means to feel "competitive" one buys several/umpteen motors to try against the one that came with the car.

 

"As long as we're saving money on motors we might as well buy more of them since they're so cheap".  :laugh2: 


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Posted 11 September 2019 - 04:27 PM

It would appear that we have different definitions of race ready then.
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Posted 12 September 2019 - 05:16 AM

To buy 50 motors to find 5 decent ones is like buying the whole herd to get the two bulls you really need to improve your herd. Especially when its for bragging rights.
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