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#1 strummer

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 01:09 PM

Since it is May, this seems like a not unreasonable topic. 

 

These are among my all-time favorites...and I bet I'm not alone in feeling that way.

 

As such, I have several examples of Strombecker's 1/32 Offy roadsters; they look great and I'm willing to wager there are some of you who have done some amazing upgrades on yours; please share what you've done. However...they didn't make a larger version for the 1/24 gang; who knows why.  Could a 3D print be made in 1/24 off the 1/32 model? Obviously I know nothing about 3D printing...

 

I was "chatting" to Brad Blohm and he mentioned an Eldon roadster was made in the larger scale; it looks to be a 1/24 version of their 1/32 car. Anyone here have a copy to show?

 

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 01:16 PM

You can google Eldon Watson and probably see a good picture.   .Brad is right., it's maybe the best Eldon body made..I almost used one of them when I was making Watson bodies, but I ended up using the AMT model for a mold.    with some good detailing  they can make a nice Watson.    You can also get vac formed bodies from Professor Motor and from Gene Adams.   Both are very nice bodies and build great Indy Watsons.    The LVJ narrow chassis is an easy  chassis to build and fit for those bodies.

 

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resin AMT copy

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 01:18 PM

Mark, 

 

Lancer made some very nice vac-form versions of Indy roadsters, and those should be easier to find than the few hard-body versions. Strombecker did make a Dirt Track Racer, but it's scarce and expensive! I think the Eldon one was still sold as 1/32, but it is closer to 1/24... 

 

Here's one I picked up off ebay: 

 

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And one that seems to be a resin copy of what was maybe an AMT model originally - I think that's one of the few 1/24 kits of this kind of car: 

 

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 01:20 PM

Our posts crossed Matt - do you recognize my resin body? Looking at your's I guess it isn't the AMT! I got it about 20 years ago, actually in a trade with Edo... it was made by a guy who listed a bunch of cars like this on ebay at the time, can't remember his name. 

 

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 02:21 PM

Quoting Don:

 

And one that seems to be a resin copy of what was maybe an AMT model originally - I think that's one of the few 1/24 kits of this kind of car: 

 

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Don 

 

 

Nice...I think this is the same model I picked up a while back...my box shows "Monogram Snap Tite"...

 

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 05:01 PM

Don the pink and white car  looks like a Monogram Kurtis K  body.   That was like PC 18 or something, a really early Monogram kit, but that was a glue kit, not a snaptite.

I think I have one of the early kits that had a yellow car on the front.  The Kurtis is slightly larger than the Watson.   Kurtis always kind of thought  "the Head",Watsons nickname, stole his design.    As everybody knows race car designs don't get stolen they get improved and that was the deal with the Kurtis and the Watson.  There were vac bodies made of both those cars.   The Watsons available today are excellent.,   

 

The Strom Dirt Tracker was a Champ car andthe design was called an upright car after the Kurtis and Watsons hit the track.    There is a fantastic copy of that body available from Big Donkey Resins complete with all trim except windshields, which are not hard t make, can be vac formed if you know anybody good at that.

 

 

The Eldon Watson and Lotus 38 are actually both 1/24 scale cars, they used the nylon chassis, but they were 1/24 cars.  They were sold in the clear cases but that pair of cars was also in a race set they sold called the Indianapolis 500 set, I believe.    Both those cars were pretty good and the Lotus also can be detailed nicely.

 

 

This is the Big Donkey Dirt track copy.   The whole kit is under $30.  Indycals has decals for a few versions of this car

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this pic is the Dirt tracker and the 51 Indy winner, the Belond Special.    I made the Belond which is a Frank Kurtis design from several of the Monogram PC18 Midget kits.  I cut and sectioned and bondoed till I got the same outline as Klindists scale drawing, but I left  the body  wider so a chassis would fit easier and it would still be a competitive car.     

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There were  appx 35 Watsons built but they got sold and repainted about every year..   Kuzma, Kurtis and other builders also copied them pretty accurately.   

 

 


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 05:11 PM

Here's the Monogram Kurtis, it is around in a lot of different boxes  and some combo kits.

 

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Here's the 1/24 Eldon Indy cars and you can see these cars actually have great possibilities.

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 05:55 PM

I've got a couple of scratch builds I did a few years ago...

 

Patto's body, phantom livery;

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The 'Hornsby Rattler' won the "Vintage Open Wheel" series twice.

 

And a kit from Mike Swiss for a short run proxy;

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Both shaker/rattle pan style.


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 07:48 PM

Steve, that's nice stuff.   I found it takes real talent to nerf a guy with an open wheeler!


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 07:57 PM

Here's the Monogram Kurtis, it is around in a lot of different boxes  and some combo kits.

 

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Here's the 1/24 Eldon Indy cars and you can see these cars actually have great possibilities.

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Yep, the Monogram is the same one I got last month.  :good:

 

The Eldon roadster isn't "bad", but I guess I prefer the look and style of the Strombecker offering...again, I wish they had also done it in  1/24.

 

Speaking of "Roadsters", this arrived today:

 

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Whatta great book!   :)

 

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 08:51 PM

That is a great book and one of the best about the Watson years, although there is one book dedicated solely to the Watson cars and their evolution thru different owners and lots of pix of AJ and the various teams he headed.  Scalzo has done several good books on race cars.


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 09:55 PM

This combo kit is still around and it has the Kurtis kit in it and the Don Edmunds modified. 

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The chrome tree for the modified works great on the dirt tracker body as Big Donkey sells.   This beautiful car was built by Tom Miner using one of my old resin bodies and the chrome from the modified racer.

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This is Larrys dirt tracker body kit

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