then talk to your friends at amt to see if they even molded anything in RED in 66.
$4,000 Cox Gurney Ford Prototype
#26
Posted 04 July 2020 - 04:16 PM
#28
Posted 04 July 2020 - 04:55 PM
IS IT RED
#29
Posted 04 July 2020 - 05:08 PM
IS IT RED
It's whatever color you want it to be!
LOL
Rotor
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#30
Posted 04 July 2020 - 05:15 PM
It looks chrome to me, with some faint red reflection(?) from the rest of the body.
The outside looks painted to me.
JMO
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#31
Posted 04 July 2020 - 05:30 PM
The bumpers and headlights show chrome missing and exposing red plastic.IMO
The body has been painted red, but if it were to be painted over white plastic you would most likely see a chip or a thin spot in the paint exposing the base color especially on the inside.
Mike, I should have said both bumpers as the front is more clear. Maybe not so clear on a phone if that is what you are looking at?
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#32
Posted 04 July 2020 - 06:51 PM
Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#33
Posted 04 July 2020 - 06:56 PM
Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#34
Posted 04 July 2020 - 06:57 PM
Good research Mike.
Please notice the car in question is not a promo body. But like I said you would have thought Cox would have used a promo body to better represent there production car.
But the answer may be that AMT made a kit test shot in red in 1966 and gave it to Cox for this project.
I can see that and this would be the best case for Joel.
Joel is confirming the molded plastic color now.
#35
Posted 04 July 2020 - 07:20 PM
Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#36
Posted 04 July 2020 - 07:46 PM
Maybe the model was an AMT prototype molded in red! All the 66 Ford kits I have seen that say they are original 1966 issue are white. Promos were mostly all molded in color, although some were white. Promos don't have opening hoods.
Matt Bishop
#37
Posted 04 July 2020 - 08:25 PM
promo bumpers are screwed on models are glued . there is more evidence of the car being fake then real. my opinion and its only mine i would use the chassis for the real body and throw that one away. and wouldn't pay more then 200
#38
Posted 04 July 2020 - 08:38 PM
then talk to your friends at amt to see if they even molded anything in RED in 66.
Mike answers your question, which is all out there on Google.
One guy I spoke with was in his manager's office when a call came in from the West Coast in '66. Was a car dealer who said he had a customer who bought a new Ford every year, and he just bought a gold Galaxie. Now he wants a gold Galaxie slot car, will you do it. Answer was, "Of course"! I personally have original AMT slot cars in funny colors, and know others who have funny colors. AMT did this for sure! One MPC guy told me that he and his buddies would occasionally run full bodies through their vacuum metalizer (chrome) and insert in slot car kits and wait for someone to complain, but nobody ever did. The LASCM eventually got one!
Good research Mike.
Please notice the car in question is not a promo body. But like I said you would have thought Cox would have used a promo body to better represent there production car.
But the answer may be that AMT made a kit test shot in red in 1966 and gave it to Cox for this project.
I can see that and this would be the best case for Joel.
Joel is confirming the molded plastic color now.
What you suggest is possible, but I don't know and wasn't there. What we do know is that the actual Cox Gurney body is an AMT body with subtle changes. Conceivable that AMT sent some test shots that were laying around early in the project. I know we slot car collectors ended up getting some test shots from Monogram slot car molds in funny colors years ago from a guy who had been there since the early '70s. Stuff lays around...
Brad Blohm
#39
Posted 04 July 2020 - 09:03 PM
Mike answers your question, which is all out there on Google.
One guy I spoke with was in his manager's office when a call came in from the West Coast in '66. Was a car dealer who said he had a customer who bought a new Ford every year, and he just bought a gold Galaxie. Now he wants a gold Galaxie slot car, will you do it. Answer was, "Of course"! I personally have original AMT slot cars in funny colors, and know others who have funny colors. AMT did this for sure! One MPC guy told me that he and his buddies would occasionally run full bodies through their vacuum metalizer (chrome) and insert in slot car kits and wait for someone to complain, but nobody ever did. The LASCM eventually got one!
What you suggest is possible, but I don't know and wasn't there. What we do know is that the actual Cox Gurney body is an AMT body with subtle changes. Conceivable that AMT sent some test shots that were laying around early in the project. I know we slot car collectors ended up getting some test shots from Monogram slot car molds in funny colors years ago from a guy who had been there since the early '70s. Stuff lays around...
and amt slot cars are promos, and mpc did sell chrome body cars.
#40
Posted 04 July 2020 - 09:24 PM
Yes Chris, AMT slots are hood molded in Promos, except for the Falcon, which I believe has the hood glued in. So what? Test shots happened, in whatever color was in the feeder. Did that happen here, I don't know, but make no mistake that it is possible. And yes, the GTO/Charger/Bonneville bodies that this MPC guy and his friends put into kits went out for sale. As I said, he laughed and said they did it as a joke to see if anyone would complain but nobody ever did.
Brad Blohm
#41
Posted 05 July 2020 - 02:27 PM
https://www.ebay.com...rMAAOSwFy9ew-wu now heres a real proto type lol
#42
Posted 12 July 2020 - 12:58 PM
Wanted; Dynamic Chaparral wheels
#43
Posted 12 July 2020 - 07:24 PM
Lee, the kinks in posts #41 & #42 are for two different Galaxies, not the same car.
I intend to live forever! So far, so good.
#44
Posted 12 July 2020 - 07:42 PM
Sorry chaps, as you were.
Wanted; Dynamic Chaparral wheels
#45
Posted 22 August 2020 - 07:08 AM
Funny that the person that found the car at cox never said anything about the very rear prototype. which i bet the hand writing matches his too. I got one of bud Andersons personal GTO slot cars from him, later to find out it was a promo body with a broken window post that was replaced in with a white post not gold .Just funny how bud Anderson didnt get a slot car body with him doing all that stuff with mpc.