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#1 ThunderThumb

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Posted 17 August 2020 - 12:36 PM

Looks original , untouched for years , anybody know who makes the chassis , since it looks original , dont know about the wires but I assume their original to the car , how much is this worth , no body , I oiled the motor bushings and axle , sounds good no noises that should not be there , thanks
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Posted 17 August 2020 - 12:56 PM

Earl,
You already asked this question, and got an answer.

http://slotblog.net/...e-1#entry787703

Regardless, a pic will help.

Text it to my phone, if you can't figure out how to post a picture.

708-203-8003

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Posted 17 August 2020 - 04:21 PM

Here are the pics

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Posted 17 August 2020 - 04:39 PM

That's a Dynamic chassis.

A lot of performance for the $$$, back in about '69-'70.

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Posted 17 August 2020 - 05:17 PM

From the gears, chassis & motor, it appears to have seen little use. .The lead wires need to be rerouted & the left rear tire has a cut/chunked out, but neither affects the price.


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Posted 17 August 2020 - 05:23 PM

$50.

 

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Posted 17 August 2020 - 05:41 PM

that's a really cool chassis- hinged pans, a solid front axle with maybe hard vinyl tires and a drop arm! i've never seen one of those before. 

i used to love the 20's. i didn't realize that Group motors came out that early though. i don't remember our track having 'em until about '71. 

that might have even been before side dams, so i bet it came out of the tight corners with the front end in the air! at least mine did.

those were the days, eh? all b4lls, no brains, as we used to say. man did we have fun. wish i had one. all the ones that i built and still have from that era are in pretty sad shape. 


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Posted 17 August 2020 - 05:50 PM

What I quoted for a date, was for the chassis, not the arm.

When that chassis first came out, in an RTR, it was available with an oval(?) hole 16D, for $9.95, or a Mura 2 hole can, G12, for $11.95 or maybe $12.95.

The arm most likely came out around 71.

I don't those front tires are what came with the car, in '69, either.

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Posted 17 August 2020 - 05:57 PM

aha. thanks, Mike


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Posted 17 August 2020 - 08:46 PM

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Posted 18 August 2020 - 11:39 AM

That chassis was a good one. A hot rod friend back in the day got a track for free just for removing it. We set it up in his basement, shortening the front and back straights to make it fit. We ordered most of our slot cars and equipment from an east-coast mail order house called Sal Marino. IIRC we payed $5.95 each for them. This would have been early 1971. Still have my car, with one of the Russkit motors in it we also got from that warehouse. And the original Porsche 908 body, that I busted up playing with the car at Dave Fiedler's Hot Slots track. I have replaced that with an original Dynamics Handling body I got from Dave.

 

Sal Marino sold a lot of general hobby items at incredibly low prices. Most of it was outdated or had passed it's peak sales period. Atlas came out with very scale 40 ton ore hoppers for model railroading. They were intended to run on Lionel track, and had trucks and wheels for that purpose. But Sal Marino was selling them 5 for $10, so I, and the 9 members of the O-scale Northern Illinois Society of Model Engineers each bought 10. Athern had just come out with their scale Delryn trucks, so we just changed trucks, added Kadee couplers, and had a 90 car ore train like those that ran from Minnesota to Chicago.       



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Posted 19 August 2020 - 07:09 PM

I wrote an article for Slot Cars Magazine about my very similar car which I raced in 1969-70.  The chassis pictured here has been modified with a rear axle tube/brace and a can-side motor brace.  If I'm correct, the NCC-20 arm would have been available in late 1969 or early 1970, since that's when the NCC started -- my car had one in the spring of 1970.

 

I, too, love this chassis and have a few of them.  I recently purchased one on eBay that is all aluminum except for the drop arm.  Would love to hear if anyone else has ever seen one of these.


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Posted 19 August 2020 - 07:18 PM

An aluminum Dynamic Dynamic anglewinder?

You should post a pic.

Are you sure it is aluminum, instead of a brass one that is plated?

IOW, is it considerably lighter?

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Posted 19 August 2020 - 09:20 PM

I bought a Phase III (Phaze III) in 1970 of 71 outside pans moved independently but not together and the drop arm moved , if had a medium green metallic Mura B with a NCC 20 armature , I was young at the time and all I remember it was less than $20 for the whole car and I used a MRC Red controller as my old Cox got to hot for the Group 20 motor
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