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#1 don.siegel

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Posted 18 February 2021 - 05:55 PM

A follow-up to the Great Womp Question.

 

Greg ("Cheater") asked about the first appearance of the Womp Bug, so I dug into my archives and found some interesting information on the origin of the Parma Womp-Womp. I thought we had covered this before, but couldn't find anything in a forum search, so am posting this here. 

 

In fact, it dates back to... 1972! October 1972 issue of Car Model to be precise. 

 

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Except, he says that the car has a "two-piece brass chassis", so not quite the Womp we all know and love... but the principle and the name - "Lil Womp-Womp" - are already there. The chassis photo is a bit dark, so not sure if it was really a 2 piece unit, but from what we can see, it may be closer to the Russkit Rattler. 

 

The second mention is in the November/December 1973 issue of Car Model, but since there's the same ad, only a little clearer, in the May '74, I scanned that (and also because my one Racing Coast to Coast article was published in that issue...). Still no details on the car, however. 

 

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But at the same time, in the May '74 issue of International Modeler, Parma published a full-page ad with the "new wider chassis, wider body", and a shot of the new chassis underneath. 

 

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Confirmed in the 1974-1/2 Auto World catalog, not in the 1/32 RTR section, but in an added page at the front of the book dedicated to new releases. 

 

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So, there you have a quick look at the Womp-Womp Timeline... I was getting back into slots in '74-75, but frankly I don't remember seeing any Womps around Portland and Seattle, or being interested in them, which is probably why I didn't notice any. Our Group 12, 20, and 27 races were what interested most guys, so maybe we didn't need them... 

 

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Posted 18 February 2021 - 06:26 PM

Cool stuff. Especially with the recent growth in the area of Womps. Sure would like to find the Javelin body to repop.


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Posted 18 February 2021 - 06:41 PM

Very informative, thanks. 

 

Isn't a Womp but someone may want to know about this nice Parma Grp. 20. This is on craigslist, click this LINK.

 

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Posted 18 February 2021 - 06:52 PM

My first Womp was around '73-74. It was a little Honda Civic body with that real small rear window. I've never seen another one like it.


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Posted 18 February 2021 - 07:27 PM

Cool stuff. Especially with the recent growth in the area of Womps. Sure would like to find the Javelin body to repop.

 

Yes, that was the one that caught my eye also. I'd be down to buy a few if there was an AWRA class to run them in.


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Posted 19 February 2021 - 08:16 AM

I had a green VW Womp perhaps 1974 - still have it but the body is in pieces.


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Posted 19 February 2021 - 08:50 AM

Joe, the Honda Civic is included on the box so their must be a few out there somewhere. 

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 09:40 AM

Isn't a Womp but someone may want to know about this nice Parma Grp. 20. This is on craigslist, click this LINK.

 

 

 

 

The chassis is a production one that Parma had built using their brass chassis parts. It's a good starting chassis for someone who wants to build a 4" or there-about anglewinder. It seems many were built, because they continually show up today. REHCO built a similar starter chassis that is also sometimes available. In the past, scratchbuilders have grabbed both chassis so they could cannibalize the drop arms for use on something else. These Parma drop arms were made in both .040 & .032 brass. When we were building drop arm chassis, we didn't use the .032 drop arms because they weren't stiff enough. Today, we'd probably use whatever we could get.  :)


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Posted 19 February 2021 - 10:38 AM

Joe, the Honda Civic is included on the box so their must be a few out there somewhere. 

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The Lancia Stratos is also one I am looking for. Saw one on Ebay recently but more than I was willing to pay. The Civic might be cool too. 


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Posted 19 February 2021 - 05:08 PM

I'd love to see one in all my years I have never seen another.
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Posted 19 February 2021 - 05:08 PM

I would love to see one, in all my years I have never seen another.

Joe, the Honda Civic is included on the box so their must be a few out there somewhere. 
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"Drive it like you're in it!!!"

"If everything feels under control... you are not going fast enough!"

Some people are like Slinkies... they're really good for nothing... but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.





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