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Posted 01 April 2021 - 12:58 PM

In the fall of 1967 Sandy Gross travelled to the West Coast and dominated the Car Model race. The car was pictured in the race report in the Dec. '67 Car Model, there was a full page Tom Daniel drawing in the March '68 Car Model, and again appeared in the Sept. '68 Car Model in a Mike Morrissey review of all the winning '67 chasses. Something about the design of Sandy's car has just appealed to me, and in the midst of a COVID Jail Door building binge I took the leap on bullding a tribute.

 

To be clear, I was not interested in gathering the unobtanium parts to build a complete replica like some cars on Slotblog. I used a Jail Door motor bracket for a MB motor, Jail Door front and rear wheels and tires, and a slightly more modern Jet Flag, the goal being a car that could be driven and easily maintained. 

 

The chassis, however, would be otherwise constructed as close as possible without having exact measurements, meaning the rail placement, pickup, etc., would be as close to Sandy's as possible. All the pros seemed to have their own theories on which rails should attach inside or outside the axle tubes. Thanks to a response from Howie, I know that Sandy's Lola was yellow; while not completely accurate, I found a Rebel Products Lola that has the right carbs and look, though it's a little too round at he front – I haven't added a front air dam yet. 

 

So here's a tribute to Sandy Gross' domination at the Car Model race.

 

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 02:29 PM

Such a sweet spot in slot car history. Nice tribute car, Chris.  :good:


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 03:21 PM

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 03:39 PM

Beautiful workmanship, Chris. 


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 04:59 PM

Hi Chris,

 

Your craftsmanship definitely pays homage to Sandy's accomplishment!

 

Have you had the opportunity to test the car... how does it run/handle please?

 

Thank you for sharing, Chris!

 

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 06:08 PM

48 turns of 27 wire on a Mabuchi blank was crammed full of wire, by experience I had to drop a few turns just to get a "windage" troth to generate some cooling. Several of the winders at Kapps Raceway during that era had a tough time packing in that much wire. If you didn't have Arco 33s at a minimum, it was too hot a wind.

 

Nice work.

 

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 06:10 PM

Looks great! :)


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 07:16 PM

Totally awesome.


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 07:54 PM

Chris,

 

Good job reproducing Sandy's Car Model race winner!

 

Not worrying too much about those "unobtainium" parts and still building an immediately recognizable car you can run and maintain is a pretty good idea - I like it!


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 09:27 PM

Very nice!


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 09:41 PM

A nice clean build, Chris!  :)


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Posted 02 April 2021 - 11:05 AM

Great job!!! I was there and Sandy did it! He came up with this car the morning of the race and the rest is history.

 

We were really struggling at this track and nothing was working and he broke the code and ran away with the race.

 

Sandy was great for pulling rabbits ot of the hat and he still is. 


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Posted 02 April 2021 - 11:15 AM

I sent Sandy a link to this thread and hope he'll post a comment here.


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Posted 02 April 2021 - 11:42 AM

I built one of those too a while back. Beautiful work! :good:


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Posted 02 April 2021 - 03:48 PM

Thanks, all, for the positive feedback.  I forgot to mention that I use a good old Russkit Adjust-o-jig for all my Jail Door builds.

 

No, it has not been track tested yet -- I need to add a big hunk of lead on the pickup, as Sandy did, -- but with that nice low 1/16" clearance these cars track pretty well.


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Posted 03 April 2021 - 11:55 PM

"Tire goop - Gross". How appropriate.


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Posted 04 April 2021 - 08:43 PM

Chris is your Russkit jig bone stock, or have you made some modifications to improve it?


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Posted 05 April 2021 - 06:22 PM

Bone stock jig.  I read in a post somewhere on Slotblog from Tony P that they would use 1/16" balsa as a building base.  My hobby shop didn't have that so I just have some 1/16" brass rod taped to each of the 3 jigs.  I have some tape guides to get the inner rail right.


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Posted 05 April 2021 - 08:24 PM

Some hobby shops will sell Midwest 1/16" plywood too. I got a sheet for that purpose. Chris, are you familiar with the Chris Brigg's chassis jig from NY? It's a contemporary version of the Russkit jig with tighter tolerances.


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Posted 05 April 2021 - 08:49 PM

Bone stock jig.  I read in a post somewhere on Slotblog from Tony P that they would use 1/16" balsa as a building base.  My hobby shop didn't have that so I just have some 1/16" brass rod taped to each of the 3 jigs.  I have some tape guides to get the inner rail right.

 

When I built my first chassis I used the Adjust-o-jig with a piece of 1/16 balsa. I was following the directions from Mike Morrissey in a Car Model article on building a Team Russkit chassis.


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Posted 06 April 2021 - 07:08 AM

My first scratchbuilt chassis was also built on an  Adjust-O-Jig too. That's why I later went to a pin-style jig. In the late 60's, there wasn't another commercially sold jig available.


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Posted 06 April 2021 - 07:59 AM

My first scratchbuilt chassis was also built on an  Adjust-O-Jig too. That's why I later went to a pin-style jig. In the late 60's, there wasn't another commercially sold jig available.

 

When did the Cobra Jig become available?

 

 Stretching my memory here, it was a Formica block with 1/16” pins or pieces of piano wire and holes for a few wheelbases. I seem to remember I had one before my interest wandered off in late 1970. 


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Posted 06 April 2021 - 09:15 PM

I don't know when the Cobra jig was actually available, because Modelville Hobby only ordered Phaze III chassis, cars, & jigs from REHCO. I got A Formica covered Phaze III jig in 1970. I'd assume the Cobra was available about the same time. The Phaze III used 1/8" pins for the axle locations, brass tubing for the guide, & 1/16" piano wire for everything else. It also came with a set of 4 square wheel jigs for 4 different size tires. The down side of the jig was you could only build 2 or 3 chassis on it before it become toast. But I still have the square jig wheels. Jairus has a set too & often uses them for his builds. Bob, about five years ago, I came across a new Cobra jig that never even had pins in it. It's surface drilling pattern is different that the popular Cobra Grp. 12 chassis. which I had thought it might be created for.


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Posted 07 April 2021 - 05:13 AM

Designed by Bob Emott the Cobra Jig was first.


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Posted 28 May 2021 - 05:06 PM

Hi, Sorry, I must have missed the link Cheater sent, or I would have replied sooner. Nice job Chris and really beautiful !!! That was a great race. You definitely need the lead on the pickup arm. I remember I built the chassis the day before the race at Doug Henline's house. I had another chassis that I ran at the Thursday night prerace which really worked quite well, but just wanted to try another shot. It really worked well. The motor did as well. It was one I had wound and had in my box. Earlier in the week I loaned it to Howie. It was incredibly fast and launches Howie's car over the bank and into the window as I recall. I asked Howie for it back to use in the race. An interesting point, however, was that while this car handled like it was on rails at Don's, when I tried it a week later or so at the Arco race in New Orleans, it chattered and was horrible. Who knows why? BTW, I always painted my cars yellow because they stood out and were easy to follow. Sandy


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