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#1 CruzinBob

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:30 AM

I'm on my way to Chandler, AZ, for another home track build. Steve Hill and significant other Sheila will be the proud owners of yet another nice-sized home track (in AZ) within the next two weeks.

I will post photos of progress.
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Posted 03 September 2008 - 06:19 PM

Looking forward to photos and watching your project. :) Sounds like hard work to have it done in just two weeks.

Stay clear of the monsoons and dust storms.
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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:27 PM

Hi Bob!

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 12:13 AM

Hi Bela, :)

Mike, work ten days, two weeks, take ten days off... that's my plan. :D

Monsoons are long gone. Time for cooler weather. It's only 88 at 10 PM. :rolleyes: At least the lows will be in the 70s...
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Posted 04 September 2008 - 10:16 AM

Here's the space for Steve's new track. It will be a 1/24 scale 10' x 22' four-lane Hillclimb. Note the 37" LCD monitor which will be mounted to the wall. :)

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 10:40 AM

I'm SOOO jealous... to have a track in your own home (sigh).

One o' these days...
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Posted 04 September 2008 - 10:40 PM

Looks like a good space to build in and should be lots of fun!

Please post the pics as they happen! Looking forward to seeing it!

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 01:52 PM

Here's my shop. :) Got the joints and leg support pieces cut.

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It's 11:45 AM... gonna be a hottie. :shok: Thermo is in the shade.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 06:35 PM

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WHOOHOO!

Another Bob Scott original track here in AZ!

I can't wait.

Steve is one of the coolest guys you could hang out with and we're going to have some great racing at his place.

Steve is also a great photographer... how many of you can say "I got published on the cover of John Ford's "Scale Auto Racing News"?

Look for Issue 226 coming soon.

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Steve took this great line-up shot at Arizona's first 1/24 BRM Challenge Series race at my Bob Scott track (#2) earlier this year.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 08:00 PM

Drink lots of BEER!!! That'll keep ya cool and also put some interesting lanes grooved with the router!!! :D

Good ta see another track going together!!! I gotta start mine, as soon as the #1 son moves OUT again!! :D

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Posted 06 September 2008 - 03:40 AM

Hmmm, that part of Arizona, 100 days a year of 100 degree weather. Oh joy. Beats Green Bay.
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Posted 06 September 2008 - 03:57 PM

Tim, even if I wanted to, I can't drink lots of beer. Two and I'm looped. :blush: I do drink a beer at the end of the day though.

Dave, awesome cover!

O Dull One... 110 today and feels like 90. :D I quit a few minutes ago. S'posed to be low nineties next week so I can get back to my normal warp speed...

Here's the 37 leg supports. 3 x 3/4" ply with 3 x 1/2" MDF glued/nailed on top. Traditional adjustable triangular legs will attach with non-traditional one bolt instead of two. ;)

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Joints. I use two pieces of 3/4" glued/nailed for each side. They are the clamped/drilled for 3/8" hardware. I use scraps to make a jig to hold pieces. (BTW, I don't drill it like that silly, I drill from straight up, showing this position FYI only).

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Last phase of initial joint construction. Top plate 3 x 1/2" MDF lapped over one side of joint 1/4" thereby making "lap joint" - glued/nailed. I belt-sand (36 grit) top of joint before and after attaching 1/2" MDF. I'll post pic when attached to roadbed in a couple days.

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I usually don't take time to photo and post but I'm abnormally taking my time as I get used to the heat... heh heh, right. :rolleyes:

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 12:35 AM

Sheeeezer, 105 that's hot, tools are just hot to hold in your hand.

Bob, keep the photos coming please, I have a buddy in Pt Loma that is following the thread and he needs a sweet four-lane track, too.

Well, actually there are several slot racers I know that could use a sweet home track, too, Tim, Mill, and Joe others?

The Southwest is lucky to have Bob as our prolific track builder. :)
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Posted 07 September 2008 - 02:55 PM

Mike, thank you kindly for the promo. :D Luckily I'm in the shade and the only tool that's gets pretty hot is the router. :)

Got some work done this morn. Time to cut out the sections starting with the turns, 1) to get the layout and 2) to get some big scrap pieces to make legs!

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Here I'm cutting the lead in to the "D" donut. I'm set up to cut the far radius with the router and am using Luf's (homeracingworld.com) jig (for doing squeeze lanes) to cut a wide radius to lead in. I will pencil a line and cut with jigsaw - finish edge with belt sander. This will be under the lead on and I've cut a bit wide so I can bank it a little.

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The "D" donut and lead-on:

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Next will be a day full of cutting legs and some stilts for the upper deck.

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 07:06 PM

Here's the basic layout. 22" roadbed, 4.25" lane spacing, 22' overall, 10.5' at drivers panel which will be between bank and first turn, 7' D donut, slightly banked decreasing radius turn going into donut.

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 02:08 PM

Ever experienced DRY RAIN?! By God, it happens. :shok: Woke up early to viscious reports of monsoons :angry: Scrambled to get wood and vital tools under tents and then it happened... thunder... I looked up and saw them coming, big a$$ drops of water BUT they never hit me or the ground. :unsure: :laugh2: Well, threats of monsoonal activity for the next three days... grrrr. And the humidity is every bit of 30% :o Checked the Ventura weather and it's 97%...

Here's your basic ALL-IN-ONE "How to do legs" photo. Description follows.

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I've determined I need three different size legs, small (14" pieces), med (20" pieces) and stilts for the upper deck of the Hillclimb. Here I'm showing the medium-size leg. I used leftovers from cutting turns, etc., for leg material. After cutting I begin by making a jig ® and placing one half of the leg (one piece) in it, screw it down, and rout the long slot as shown. 3/8" carbide two-flute bit. Next I drill holes for the (as Monty coined) "happy face" side of the leg. After drilling a bunch I take one, put a 3/8 x 1-1/2" bolt through and rout by holding the router base against the bolt. Assembled leg shown bolted to the leg support at top of photo and we're ready to glue/screw to a section (after they're all done). "Stilt" legs will be done later.

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 02:31 PM

:) Thanks for the play-by-play, Bob. What color is it going to be?
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 02:38 PM

You're welcome. :)

Surface Silver Grey, not sure of sidewalls but most likely some nice Tuscany blend. ;)

Shucks, I might even paint the legs for a change...

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 08:54 PM

Track is starting to take on some form. :D

First two sections up on legs and here's the first joint. Joint is glued/screwed after "egding" section (top plate) with router.

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At the end of the day, most of it is standing. I have yet to put "stilt" legs on to raise upper deck. And, of course, need to cut and attach deadman and short straight.

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Yea, ahm a little tired...

Tomorrow evening will be taking Craig Correia to race with the AZ Garage Crew. ;)

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 11:32 PM

Saw grass in one picture. Are there goats? :laugh2:
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 11:40 PM

Course they is... bunch of old goats in AZ and one's a-buildin' it. :laugh2: ;)

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 01:12 AM

Very nice, Bob. It looks a little like our club track at Mike's house.

Thanks for doing the pix for us that might give it a go.

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 01:20 AM

Hey, Bob, keep up the great work. It can only bring tons of guys into slot racing! :D
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Posted 10 September 2008 - 06:11 PM

Well, we're about halfway there! Approximmately 55 man hours thus far (includes trips to Home Depot for materials). In ideal working conditions I would have had another 20 hours in and be ready to paint. I seldom find ideal working conditions however as track builds are so few that it does not warrant having a shop.

I would like all interested parties to make a mental note here. When you are assembling a new or used track, PUT THE LEG BOLTS THROUGH THE LEG SUPPORT AND DON'T TAKE BOLTS OUT OF THE JOINTS. It makes it sooooo m uch easier when you have the hardware where it's supposed to be. When I helped reassemble the Vegas Hillclimb the hardware was everywhere and in some cases, nowhere. :angry: It helps to use all 3/8" bolts too. I know some builders use 5/16" and 3/8" but it's just so much more handy to use 3/8".

Here's the babe standing :)

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Next, lots of Bondo, leveling, sanding, more leveling, sanding... then it comes apart somewhere to flatten and rout. The sidewalls... paint... braid... lane striping, wiring, AND FINALLY - RACING. :D

Since I didn't point out the new track owner in last week's AZ Garage Slot Race meet, here's Steve Hill. (He's also shown above making a quick turn mowing the backyard since the goats have been put out to pasture). :D

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 02:23 PM

Day 8 and routing done! I love four-lane tracks! :wub: :wub: Here's some steps in the process:

Will rout in two areas. First, take apart lead-on to flatten bank leading into D donut to rout bottom deck.

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Router with guide showing tool I use to clear slot after routing and then use air to blow slot clean. Some use a vacuum but I'm accustomed to working outdoors where the dust can fly. :shok:

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First area slot routed and time for braid recess. Use special bit with pilot that follows slot. Showing scrap wood and piece of braid used to set blade depth. Depth varies according to desire.

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All routing done! Seriously messy.

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Time for lunch. Then to hardwoods supply for some 1/4" MDF for sidewalls and Grainger for paint. Sidewalls next. Grrrr, gotta get my dog on. Hard enough with two people but a real task by meself.

Yea buddy, we're rolling now. :o
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Posted 14 September 2008 - 09:44 AM

After a long a grueling day with help from Aaron (some of you will remember him from the San Diego Co Fair) most sidewalls are up. I used 1/2" MDF and some 1/4" MDF (two piece - one on top of one=laminated). I have three areas that will require four pieces of 1/8" plywood (inside the bank and turn under bank; lead-in to donut - oh ,that's gonna be fun).

I use a jig on Skilsaw to cut down sidewalls and have done so on the top but have not yet cut bottoms off.

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 10:04 AM

Looks great, Bob! I hope you're still in business when it comes time for MY four-lane home track (unfortunately, years away).
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Posted 15 September 2008 - 07:22 PM

First coat of paint on!

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 07:42 PM

WOW - that baby's lookin AWESOME, Bob!!! It's a miniature Hillclimb to die for!!

I'd love to have your experience in a few weeks. Once my son closes on his new house, I'll have my garage back!! Plus, I'll have space to put some of my hotrods, so the garage can be used for slottrack!!

I'll be ready to start building in Oct.

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 10:26 PM

Ahhhhh the wifey will want her stuff in there and POOF, the garage is gone again... :laugh2:

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 11:34 PM

Man, Oscar, one of these days you'll actually pay attention - no wife, three-car garage, one bay for workshop on slot cars and R/C airplanes!

The home track is for 1/32 plastic cars, Scalextric, Fly, Ninco, Revell, etc.! It's for the truly SCALE racing! I'll keep my 1/24 stuff at BPR - per your suggestion!!

But I love to race the little 1/32 scale stuff too! Dennis Samson will have a track soon in Irvine, with mine in So OC, we should be able to get some small club racing going on down here!! There's lot's of 1/32 guys out there, we just need to tap into them. Then perhaps we can get some to "cross-over" into D3!!

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 10:25 AM

Bob, nice track, will the cars run CCW?

I look forward to your first test drive impressions. The left side with bigger radius turns, the right side a bit more technical.

You are going to have a very busy fall with your grand opening. I was in Ventura Saturday, next time I'll need to bring my pit box. :)

If you'd like to reschedule the SD Hillclimb re-braid and re-stripe, no sweat.

BTW is the Eliminator back up and running?
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Posted 16 September 2008 - 11:16 PM

Man, this thing is looking really sweet. Should be one fast technical track. Can't wait to give it a shot!
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:00 AM

TRACK IS IN THE HOUSE! :)

That's all ya get. Steve will post the finished photo. ;)

Mike, yes, CCW and I sent you an email.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:11 AM

Bob,

You better come down here to Mike G's track and help us out. After all, we are the true SoCal, buddy. :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

And we need ya more than you think. Got to put some lap times up at Mike's house. ;)

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:38 AM

Okay Steve, get with it... inquiring minds want to see.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 06:46 AM

Bob,

Very nice work indeed! I'm impressed.

I do have a question. What thickness MDF do you use for the track surface? I'm assuming 3/4 inch?

I've seen specs on all the other MDF pieces, just have not spotted the track surface one. You probably have put it in, I have probably missed it.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 08:43 AM

Thank you!

Surface is standard 1/2" MDF. If I were to do a track for 1/32 or 1/43 scale I would use 3/8" surface.

I have seen a lot of overbuild for slot car tracks. The structure is what gives the track its support and especially the sidewalls. It's hard to believe but the banked turns shape is held in place totally by the the sidewalls.

And, after all a slot car track is just a roadbed with walls. :)

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 05:01 PM

The Pope asked, "Michelangelo... when will you be finished?" And the Great Master said, "When I am done!"
(Sistine Chapel, circa whatever, Anno Domini)

Bob, I've not even seen the thing yet but Steve tells me about the progress every day at work and I know it will be another "masterpiece" and as Steve said, he wanted a Bob Scott Original... I can't wait til Saturday to race on it!

I know your need to get to Shannon's for the braid repair and then home to your family but man we will miss you around here.

We may not be true "SoCal buddies" but we are grateful for all you have done for slot racing here in the dusty wasteland.

So much so that I think it's time to nominate you for John Ford's Slot Car Hall of Fame! (if he has not already put you in it).

What do you CA and AZ guys think?
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 05:40 PM

Great idea, Dave!
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 06:20 PM

Sounds like a good idea. Bob's doing a lot to promote slot racing - building tracks as well as setting up tracks at various venues for more public exposure, and hopefully increasing interest in the hobby, all good stuff. :)
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 08:12 PM

+1
Yeah, how many routed home tracks have you built, Bob?

Bob builds routed tracks as fast as Joe Chevy builds D3 cars. ;)

OK lets keep the track photo momentum going, time for the proud owners to post some photos.

One day away, we might miss the striping and braid day or, god forbid, the photos of the first test day! :D
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 12:28 AM

Dave,

I'm truly honored by your favor. :blush: I'm very lucky to have very good slot racing friends in both Sunny California and Sunnier Arizona :D

And while I always complain about the heat in AZ, having stayed with Steve and his lovely Sheila in South Chandler under the most hospitable conditions, it's definitely the COOL spot of AZ!

If I didn't have a store to open when I get home, I'd be back here for Saturday's Cherry Hill break-in race. Am looking very much forward to reports and photos!

Steve Hill's track is #80 since 1996. Most have been relatively small but each has been unique ;)
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 08:52 AM

Now all ya needs is an HO track, too, and you'll have all the slot bases covered. They take a lot less room, too.

Just think, you could have a decathalon of slots at yer own place... :laugh2: :blink:
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 05:42 PM

Well I tried but as you can see from the email copied in below I have not been paying close attention to John's Hall of Fame and did not realize it was era specific. We can still hope that John can do a Volume Two.... We need a Historian.

The hall of fame is primarily designed for people in our industry from the '60s who had a major part in our existence today. Bob certainly is an important person today, but perhaps should go into a volume 2 along with many other industry leaders of today.

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On Sep 17, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Dave Deuble wrote:

John,

I think it's time that someone nominates Bob Scott of Cruzin' Slot Car Racing to your Hall of Fame if he is not already there.

Bob has been racing since the '60s and has had several raceways in California and Arizona and has also operated mobile tracks at fairs all over the west. Bob also hosted the 2005 "Convention" here in AZ in a raceway with 10 tracks sometimes running at the same time. Bob has been building commercial and home routed tracks for some time now and has just completed a 80+ foot Hillclimb for Steve Hill that fits in his "family room"!

Bob's contribution to the sport here in AZ and on the left coast has been huge, there is no telling how many kids and big kids he has inspired to join us in this silly sport we all love.

Check out his latest creation here:
(this thread)
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Posted 19 September 2008 - 01:36 AM

Thanks, Dave! It was a valiant attempt :)

Home safe! Just a 600 mile trip by way of Prescott! Now Shannon's track is in top shape.

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Posted 19 September 2008 - 10:22 AM

And he's one of the nicest/friendliest guy in slots, too... I've know Bob since the '90s with 1/24 and HOs, too. Always a good guy to race with or against. He'd get my vote.

Right on, Brother Bob. :victory: :drinks:
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Posted 19 September 2008 - 09:44 PM

Thanks Oscar, we're born n bred Californians, eh?! I'm really a NorCal transplant (born in Chico, schooled in Eureka/San Jose) but have lived in SoCal for awhile. And you're a die hard SoCal, whood a thot there was actually a town called Lawndale in Los Angeles :laugh2:

Anyhooo....BREAK IN RACE TOMORROW (Saturday) @ Cherry Hill Raceway. Am anxiously awaiting results ;)
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Posted 20 September 2008 - 10:53 PM

OK everyone here we go with the run in update!!!
First off let me take the space to Thank Bob for a wonderfull track!!
And a job well done. This was an amazing process to watch from the beging.
Bob is truly a master!! It was great having Bob here, We all had a blast having him here for the
Wed night races. and were sorry to see him leave.
Thank you Bob, I could not be more happy with this track...Awsome038.JPG
We had 8 drivers today. 11hours of racing with 8 races. All the Arizona Garage Racing guys were
more than surprized by the great work Bob had done.
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Posted 20 September 2008 - 10:59 PM

First race was the carrea stockers. winner was the proud new track owner Steve w/67 laps and a best time of 6.324.044.JPG
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