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#1 stoo23

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Posted 07 June 2021 - 02:03 AM

Sadly, the oldest, continuously runnng raceway in Australia, being "Hornsby Slot Cars," originally "Waitara Raceway," in the northern suburbs of Sydney in New South Wales, will close its doors and cease operation at the end of June. :(

 

This is such a sad loss to the long history of Aussie slotting and to both the Australian and especially Sydney slotting scene.

 

It was opened at some time early to mid-1963 with two excellent, super smooth tracks... made by its original owner/operator Kevin Thurston.

 

The first and very challenging track, was a 'billiard table' smooth 10-lane flat track, (the usual competition track) and the later, a high-banked very fast eight-lane.

 

Kevin was a cabinet maker by profession, so took a personal degree of pride in the style and standard of construction of the tracks and both were easily the equal of any other tracks I have had the pleasure to race on.

 

I started 'playing' there, when around nine or 10, with a good school friend and eventually became more seriously interested as I got older and began racing in the local club events.

 

There was always a healthy turn-out of very helpful older club racers who helped me eventually build my first effective chassis for club and then state racing.

 

I was 'over the moon' to return home after my very first official serious race (for new younger racers), with a trophy (for third place), after even leading for a a few brackets till eventually my own home-wound 26D , cried enough... LOL.

 

Over the years, the owners have changed and sadly perhaps, the original tracks were sold/changed but were eventually replaced by two superbly-constructed tracks by Gary Johnson... fortunately.

 

It has to be suggested that with both the change of name to "HSC" and the arrival of Gary's new tracks, the centre began another healthy long history of events.

 

It has been a haven for many racers in all classes and styles of cars over the years, as for so long, as it was the only continuously running track in Australia. Obviously, there have been others that ran and have run for many years, but not nearly as long and not in the same venue.

 

Perhaps somewhat amazingly, the place still holds the fascination of a number of those that I met at my very first official state association race way back in 1970, who I still race with and against today.

 

My good friend and teammate, Mark Fox, I count as one of my few true lifelong friends whom I met on that fateful day way back.

 

In fact it is rather interesting that the current owner, James Colfax, was a fellow racer with Mark way back, when they both used to race at a track in the bowling centre in Rushcutters Bay in the city of Sydney, when teenagers.

 

Many of us have been trying to squeeze as much racing in leading up to the closing date, with a number of serious 'national' events to be held both for scale and wing cars towards the end of the month.

 

It must also be stated that whilst James has had some health issues over the last few years... the reason for the track's closing is because the whole building that the track, and a number of other similarly long-standing tenants have occupied, has been sold and is planned for demolition and re-development.

 

Perhaps, had James been younger/healthier and also Sydney's commercial rental prices been more realistic, the track may have survived...

 

Sadly... that is not the case and so... what has been a raceway that managed to become part of the very short list of continuously running raceways with such a long and wondrful history of fun, friendhip, cameraderie and always great racing... is finally coming to an end.  :)

 

It is like an era of Aussie slotting is ending... it will be seriously missed by many of us older 'original' and still racing buddies.

 

Its closing, will also leave Sydney without any real commercial 1/24 tracks that regularly hold serious race events, so its closing really is a serious blow to Sydney slotters, as well as those who have regularly travelled interstate for the many national events held over the recent years.

 

Sad, sad news indeed!!!

 

I have included a pic from the early '60s of the original owner Kevin and his partner Marge behind the always very well-stocked counter.

 

Anyone interested, can view and read many race reports, Retro, scale and wing cars via the following forums &and sites:  :)

 

http://hornsbyslotcars.com.au/

 

http://forum.ascra.com.au/index.php

 

http://ausmcr.com/fo...nsby-slot-cars/

 

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Posted 07 June 2021 - 04:01 PM

Very sad indeed.

 

I just realized "all" my life long mates are from my slot car days at Waitara!

 

What's really weird is that you and I only meet a few years ago, but we seem to have had a similar slot car existence that was just 180 degrees out of sync.

 

I was racing club racing on the flat track back in the 26D era. I had a Mabuchi with a Champion 617 arm. Charlie recruited me from the banked track chaos.

 

I used to maintain those coin-operated control boxes for the original tracks and remember converting them from 20 cents per 15 minutes to 20 cents per 10 minutes.


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Posted 07 June 2021 - 04:15 PM

I hope someone is documenting the history.


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Posted 07 June 2021 - 04:32 PM

Stew, I know how it feels losing a local raceway. The last in this area closed in 2010 and there hasn't been any replacements. Sometimes it's difficult to retain interest in the hobby.

 

You mentioned your friend Mark Fox. If he's who I think he is, he also constructed a few nice Retro chassis.


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Posted 08 June 2021 - 05:41 AM

That is a very sad and all too common story, but thanks for sharing. 

 

A very impressively stacked counter! 

 

Some retailers here are getting at least temporary breaks on rent, due to COVID - not the case in Sydney, I assume? In any case, that's one of the main stumbling blocks these days. But looks like there may be a shakeout in the whole retail situation post-COVID, depending on country and local area of course. 

 

Any clubs doing 1/24 commercial type racing in your area? 

 

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Posted 08 June 2021 - 06:32 AM

Sydney/NSW had five new COVID cases today taking the total number to 28 active cases. All these cases came from people returning from overseas; no local transmissions. So its pretty much business as usual here, except there are no overseas visitors.

 

Ironically, I think COVID has actually delayed the redevelopment of the property, so they got a lease extension.

 

There is SSME - The Model Park that started in 1906. They have a great slot car track from the sixties - Luddenham slotcars.



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Posted 08 June 2021 - 09:59 AM

Hey Greg,.. YES,..it IS "Very sad indeed". :(

 

"What's really weird is that you and I only meet a few years ago, but we seem to have had a similar slot car existence that was just 180 degrees out of sync."

Ha Ha, Yeah,.. it Is rather odd

 

"I was racing club racing on the flat track back in the 26D era"

:) 26D's worked very well around the flat track,.. :)  or Perhaps even Better,.. a "Hutchesson" Long Stack Mura Motor !!! LOL

Was that when Kevin was running the place,.. or the 2 x John's ?? Maybe I had stopped club racing at that time.

 

"Charlie recruited me from the banked track chaos.",... Ha ha Ha,.. That Track was Always capable of providing CHAOS !!! LOL

 

"I used to maintain those coin-operated control boxes for the original tracks and remember converting them from 20 cents per 15 minutes to 20 cents per 10 minutes."

Funny, I was thinking about those things just the other day,.. They Were Huge !!

 

Yeah,.. Covid certainly had quite an effect on HSC's more recent 'Party' business !!


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Posted 08 June 2021 - 10:13 AM

Hey Bill, hope things are good with yourself :)

 

Yeah,.. it is a Loss,.. Not Only as a 'Local Raceway',.. but for the Length of memories and for it being part of my initial and subsequent Long Term interest in our Unique Hobby.

 

I think it will not only be more difficult to retain Interest in the 'Hobby', but Also actually 'Having' an Interest Bill !!

As with MANY of us,... in Our Older Age,.. finding Slotting again, has actually given Many of us 'Something' to Do,.... Technically, Mentally AND Socially,.. which Will be Sorely Missed by many of us !!

 

"You mentioned your friend Mark Fox. If he's who I think he is, he also constructed a few nice Retro chassis."

YES !! One and the Same !!!,.. Mark has Always been a Very 'Original' Thinker and Builder,.. of quite exceptionally well thought out and made chassis, that have Always worked extremely well,.. and has always been a quite decent driver as well !!

 

As I have often Joked, that I have SO Many 2nd place Trophies,.. invariably due to Mark Having the 1st Place ones !!!,.. LOL

 

Mark also created the First 'Tripod' style chassis Way Back,.. (Yes,.. even Before you guys in the States did !!!),.. we used to call them 'Ice Cream Cones', due to their shape :)


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Posted 08 June 2021 - 10:24 AM

Hey Rob,... Sort of,.. but Not really in a Truly 'Historical' sense,.. apart from bits of Info' posted here and on our ASCRA forum.

 

There have been the Odd rumours about the Original tracks,.. although Hard Evidence of their current existence, has Not been 'Proven'.

It has also been Virtually Impossible to find ANY Photos of the Original tracks especially the Flat track.

 

I'm sure if Mobile Phones and Digital cameras had been around back in the day,.. there would be a Plethora of pics,.. lol

I'm Sure Someone somewhere Must have a pic or two,.. I just haven't found any,... and even in the Pic I posted (which was published in a Local Slotting Magazine way back), No pics of the track ever seem to have been published.

 

That said,.. I DO have copies of a couple of Poor quality pics showing sections of the 'Banked' Track when it was being removed/disassembled which I will post here when I find them:)

 

 

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Posted 08 June 2021 - 10:36 AM

Hey Don,... YES !! It IS,.. and Always Was a very impressively Stocked Counter !!

 

Imagine what Many of those 'Kits' etc would Fetch NOW on Ebay !!!!,.. LOL

 

"Any clubs doing 1/24 commercial type racing in your area?"

Sadly,.. NO,.. Not really.

 

I live further North slightly up the Coast from Sydney and the Track was relatively easy to  get to as it was only about a 40 odd minute drive via the Freeway, so wasn't too bad to 'commute' as such.

 

There is a Very well run Local raceway up this way,.. but they Only have Carrera Plastic Style tracks and Mainly run 1/32 scale stuff.

 

ALL Other 1/24th Clubs and Raceways are Quite a Journey for Many of us both in Sydney Proper and especially for those of us that live up this way.

 

Greg Erskine mentioned SSME at Luddenham, which is a Club that has been running for a VERY Long time and actually has THE Oldest actual Track still running.

Perhaps strangely, it was initially built and installed back in about 1967 in a suburb near me up here called Woy Woy and after moving a few times has spent the last 30 to 40 years at SSME,.. in fact I used to race on it there in my Late Teens.

 

We are still at this stage unsure just What is happening with the 2 current tracks at HSC,.. (obviously We are Hoping they will be set up again somewhere in Sydney), but it seems they may be moving interstate down South to a suburb in Melbourne, Victoria.

 

Whilst We will still continue racing at SSME,.. I think the Problem,.. Especially for Retro, is that with HSC Gone,.. there will be No where to Purchase Retro 'Specific' Parts etc, as in reality, HSC was the Only Raceway where Retro (as we Know it) was regularly raced and supported and No other Raceways in Australia or NZ carry any Retro 'bits & Bobs',.. :(


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Posted 08 June 2021 - 02:01 PM

Sounds like you guys need to  find some space where you can at least build a 4 lane track to race on.  Maybe not a big track, maybe not a fancy track, but a place where you can get together with your friends and play with slot cars.    Just some kind of simple track and slower cars can still be fun and keep the hobby alive for awhile.


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Posted 09 June 2021 - 04:48 AM

Stewart Woy Woy where Spike Milligan comes from


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Posted 09 June 2021 - 07:59 AM

Hey Lindsay,.. :) Yes,... 393 Orange Grove Road in fact.

His parents moved there in the early 1950's and Spike visited often and spent a lot of time there.

 

Apparently, "Puckoon" & "Hitler, My Part in his Downfall" were written whilst staying there.

There is a Special 'Spike' Section in the local Library and a Bridge / Cycle way named after him.

 

Gotta Love Spike,.... In typically irreverent Spike style, he often referred to Woy Woy as "God's Waiting Room" & "The Only Above Ground Cemetery",.. LOL

Woy Woy in Aboriginal, means 'Deep Water', but Spike always wanted to know which Woy mean't Deep and Which Woy mean't Water,.. :) :)

 

,.. his Tombstone says,..in Gaelic, "I Told You I was Ill",....  :D  :laugh2: 


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Posted 13 June 2021 - 06:16 AM

It's going to leave a big hole in my life that's for sure.


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Posted 01 September 2021 - 08:21 PM

Sadly,... Sydney's more recent Covid 'Outbreaks' and Lockdown managed to completely Skupper the Final Weekend of racing at HSC prior to it's Official Close, which apart from many of losing the opportunity to Race, (there were GT-1, Wing 12 and Scale races scheduled), with many Interstate racers intending to attend, it also mean't many of us Didn't get the chance to either See each other OR to allow many of us to say our Face to Face Goodbyes to James the owner/operator, which was indeed a Great Shame :(

 

Whilst obviously an Inevitable reality, Seeing this Pic;

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'posted' on facebook was bad enough,... 

 

But Seeing THIS Pic' sent to me by James the other day;

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is for myself (and I am sure MANY Others), Very Sad !!!

 

In ALL my Life, I have NEVER seen this 'Space',.... Empty :( :(

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Officially the building will be 'Vacated' by the end of this week and Demolition will then begin,.... :(

 

All to Create a Wonderful NEW VW vehicle Sales Centre,... How Wonderful,.... Just what the World Needs,...... 

 

One Good piece of news though is that apparently the Tracks WILL be staying in Sydney and Not going Interstate, so at least us Sydney-Siders may get the opportunity to once again Race on a couple of Our Favourite Tracks once again in the (Hopefully) Not too distant future :)

 

Great to see many of the 'comments' on the HSC Facebook page though :)

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Posted 01 September 2021 - 11:04 PM

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Posted 02 September 2021 - 03:07 AM

Is that building going to be knocked down?

 

I feel your pain and hope for the best.


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Posted 02 September 2021 - 05:37 AM

Yes Nelson, it was a 2 x story building and filled a Block and had a number of  very long term Tenants, a couple of whom had been there since the 1960's.

The whole site/block is being demolished and Re-Developed by the VW dealership across the laneway.

 

Which somewhat surprisingly, is a Family business from the Inland 'Country' areas of the State and are also the Maserati and Ferrari dealers in NSW.

They are Proud of Their business running for 40 years and Pride themselves on their Philanthropic and Community based activities, but seem to have ZERO interest of 'connection' with the raceway.

 

The building was owned and run by One Family for Many years and the rent was also Kept very reasonable until the Old original owner (the Father of that family) passed away.

Since then I think the 'kids' have been Very keen to sell off the property.

 

You know,.. the Usual Story,.. based around the "Wow, that Land must be worth a Fortune" etc,.. LOL

 

I mean Hey,.. I Can't really blame the family that owned the building/block, as the total Property MUST be worth a small fortune :)


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Posted 03 September 2021 - 12:02 AM

Just by the number of columns it looks like it was built in a time when overbuilt might not be built good enough.

 

It is going to cost a lot to knock a building like that down.


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Posted 03 September 2021 - 01:37 AM

Yeah,.. perhaps. You can Have a bit of a 'Look Around' here; https://www.google.c...!7i16384!8i8192

 

The VW dealership is to the Left. 

 

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 10:10 AM

Oh well,.. The End of a Wonderful 58 year long Era of a Truly Wonderful Slot Racing Centre HAS finally reached it's Sad conclusion.. with James closing the Doors for the LAST Time this Weekend.

 

It's Sad, but So nice to see So many people leaving such Nice compliments ans statements on the Facebook Page; https://www.facebook...ornsbySlotCars/

 

Now,.. Completely Empty,.. :(

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The Last Owner and 'Caretaker' of the track James Colfax, closing the door for the LAST Time in what has been a Wonderful Span of years of Australian and Sydney slotting history.

 

As SO many have already expressed,.. Thanks James and may Hornsby Slot Cars / Waitara Raceway Rest LONG in our collective memories.

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 01:26 PM

Don't wait for somebody else, get a bunch of the guys together and find a place to rent or lease to set the track up.    Might take a few  bucks from a bunch of guys, but find a way to keep  it alive.


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Posted 05 September 2021 - 11:22 PM

The Tracks have Already been Sold Matt, apparently to someone IN Sydney,.. so it may be that we will be able to race on them once again in the (hopefully), not too distant future. Initially it seemed the tracks were heading interstate, so we will All have to wait and see.

 

As all Three East coast States have been and still are in almost full 'lock-down' the is NO slot car racing happening Anywhere and hasn't been for quite a number of months.

 

Keeping a Slot Car Centre Open at ANY time can be difficult financially, so it may Not be a very good situation for some of the Other 1/32 scale based Raceways around Sydney and it's extended environs.

 

Thanks to all for your Interest, concern and suggestions :)


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Posted 05 September 2021 - 11:56 PM

Hey Stoo, did they find Martin during the clean-up?  :laugh2:



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Posted 05 September 2021 - 11:59 PM

OH !!!,.. Ha Ha Ha,.. Good one Greg !!!


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