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#26 MSwiss

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:48 AM

Mike, 
 
I tested your Low C.G. Red Fox graphite guides this afternoon. 155 ft Hill Climb on 13 volts. The track is older and not super smooth. I tested it on a brand new build an R-Geo GVP Hybred w/Razzo pans. This chassis was also built with your plated wire.
 
I built the car as light as possible using an IRRA legal wide nose TI-22 body. Not a tissue paper thin body. All up the car was 97.2 grams. Normal cars that run good on that track are in the 105 to 110 gram range. My Track record holding car is one of R-Geo's prototype GVP Raptor Chassis not in production as of yet. Coming soon. This car was built for challenging tracks and is 108 grams.
 
The new build had you guide installed and just for grins I ran some laps with it. I was amazed at how well that 97.2 gram car was getting around the track. I let one of the other top guys that run there try it. He also was amazed how good the car ran. He questioned my scales because a car that light couldn't be that fast on that track. He put it on his scale and it was in fact 97.2. I let one other racer try it and he also commented on how fast the car was. I ran a 4.75 with it Matt ran a 4.72 with it and the third guy ran 4.77. all commented on how well the car entered the corners and how early they could power out of the corners. Also how the car handled the bumps. 
 
I took the Record holding car out and could only manage 4.80 with it. It has a standard new Red Fox graphite guide on it and the same nylon guide nuts on them both. Not one of Mikes cut down ones as I ran out of them. The heavier car did not handle the bumps as well as the one with Mike's LCG guide. On that chassis with the GVP nose on it that Guide I am sure made a big difference. It put the little bit of extra weight that that nose likes in the perfect place. Below the surface of the track! As low as it can go.That super light car felt like it was planted better then the heaver one. And yes I ran the same tires on them both. Both cars had the same motors and chute speed as almost the same for both cars the heavier car having a tiny edge in motor. Next race day I will switch guides between the two and retest. I will also test them on an Retro F-1 and a Flexi GTP car.
 
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Greg VanPeenen.                   

Thanks for taking the time to post a detailed assessment.

It's great to hear your initial test was very positive.

The other good news is that Gugu should be shipping more graphite guides to a distributor, in the next day or two.

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 08:39 PM

Big congrats to PortCity Motosports', Shane Parent & Bobby Beauchemin, on their win at the King of the Cobra, enduro, at The Slot Car Track Concord, running 2,229 laps, using a C/R low CG guide flag.

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Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
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Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 07:21 PM

Mike,

 

Follow up to last weeks test. This week tested on Mossetti LMP car, Retro F-1. and 2 more Retro Can-Ams. Switch to stock RF Graphite guide on last weeks test Can-Am ran a few laps and switched back to CL LCG. Wow is all I can say. 

 

Results. These things flat work.

 

Regards,

Greg VanPeenen. 

 

I will get a hold of you for more guides and that great plated wire. Keep up the good work.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:38 AM

Thanks to all who have been patient, while I waited for more Red Fox graphite guides to hit the U.S.

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The good news is just as soon as I got these all cut, and put in the tumbler.......

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.....these arrived.

 

With my wife in Colorado for a week , to help her sister with her book launch, I'll be freed up time wise, from my every evening duty, feeding her grapes, while she lounges in her chaise, so I should be able to put a decent dent in the B/O's.


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Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
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Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
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Posted 21 July 2018 - 12:38 AM

it's good to see that you are still so dedicated, Mike.

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 01:12 PM

Thanks, Speedy, for the kind words.
 
I can't believe how much of a distraction / time waster is, getting a new phone is, especially when the old one teases you with a few brief resurrections, but I did manage to the below done.
 
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Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:04 PM

Thanks, Speedy, for the kind words.
 
I can't believe how much of a distraction / time waster is, getting a new phone is, especially when the old one teases you with a few brief resurrections, but I did manage to the below done.
 
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That takes care of mine . Hope you get time to do some for other people. LOL


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Posted 23 July 2018 - 11:34 PM

what's it been, about 20 years or so? I admire your work.

off topic, but tell me about it, that new phone thing!  lol

I have an android personal 'smart' phone. then my old work flip phone died a couple months ago. they just laughed at me and gave me an iPhone7.

powerful, but a steep learning curve, and Way too many Easter eggs for my liking.  when I get totally stuck the kids help me, but really...


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 07:16 PM

Mike, 

 

Did some more guide testing. 

 

Same car ( Retro IRRA legal Can-Am) , same motor. same tires, same track (155 Ft Hill Climb) this time within a few minutes of each other. Ran 10 laps with each guide and averaged the times

 

Guides tested were all new Red Fox. Number 1 was a Swiss pinned RF guide, 2 was a stock graphite RF guide and 3 was a Swiss LCG RF graphite guide. 1 and 2 there was no real difference, Guide 3 however made an average reduction in lap times of .07 seconds in my testing, they do make a difference.

 

Keep up inventing or re inventing stuff that helps us go faster.

 

Greg VanPeenen

 

P.S. Guides, Wire, Guide nuts Please  LOL.


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:13 AM

 Guide 3 however made an average reduction in lap times of .07 seconds in my testing,
 
Greg VanPeenen
 
P.S. Guides, Wire, Guide nuts Please  LOL.

Greg,
Thanks for taking time to do a scientific test.
 
I'm glad to see some hard numbers, showing my effort is resulting in more than just an avenue to help pay the rent.
 
When I went for my yearly physical, 5 or 6 weeks back, my doctor spotted my graphite infused, crazy glue encrusted finger tips, and got startled, thinking I was suffering from some sort of communicable skin disease. Honest.
 
Your order went Tuesday.
 
You should have it today.

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She saw something like this, but about 4-5 times worse.


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 10:31 AM

That looks like something your proctologist should consider removing!  :shok:


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 11:16 AM

Tuesday, my car was a "rider" and hit the wall so hard everyone groaned at the same time.

On the new Cheetah C43 chassis, the the guide flag tongue was torqued so far to the left....\.....that the guide flag would barley fit back into the slot.

The Mike Swiss LCG guide flag was in perfect shape.

 

I'm still unbending the chassis. :to_become_senile:


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 09:45 PM

Thanks for the testimonial, Phil.

 

I'm impressed the unpinned post held up, in a wreck that severe.

 

As far as strength, in general, a racer who just used one, to win an enduro, is convinced the brass plate makes it more rugged.

 

I won't argue that the blade should be stiffer.


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Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
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Posted 05 August 2018 - 11:30 AM

Congrats to Joe "Chubby" Salzman on his sweep, at the Battle of the Colonies, yesterday, at Port Jeff Raceway, using the C/R weighted, low CG, Red Fox guide flag.

 

Doug Bauer was also 2nd, in Can-Am, using one.

 

 

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Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
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Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 04:13 PM

Mike, 

 

I have not seen this posted yet.

 

I weighed 3 guides a few minutes ago. All were Red/Fox graphite guides with threaded stock height post.

 

1. Stock R/F weight 1.54 g.

2. Swiss LCG with brass insert 2.34 g.

3. Swiss LCG with tungsten insert 2.92 g.   

 

I hope this info is useful to those considering this product.

 

Regards,

Greg VanPeenen.


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Posted 07 August 2018 - 07:14 PM

Congrats to Joe "Chubby" Salzman on his sweep, at the Battle of the Colonies, yesterday, at Port Jeff Raceway, using the C/R weighted, low CG, Red Fox guide flag.

 

While it's always terrific, when a superstar racer, like Chubby Salzman, chooses your product to be on his race car, it's almost more satisfying when a "regular" racer does well with one.

 

Phil Kreuter had a couple of nice 2nd place finishes, this past Sunday at the John Austin Fun Race, running low CG guides on his Group FK12 wing, and Millinieum, cars.

 

Most impressive, was Phil, in his Millinieum debut, cutting record holder, Ricky D, for fast time, by a decent amount.(4.211 vs.4.242)

 

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Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
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Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 04:23 PM

Lately I've been slipping Chicagoland weighted flags one by one into my race cars to test my results. No scientific data, but if anything my standings have been improving in the cars I've used them in. My gut feeling is, they offer a slight advantage. No better feeling of confidence entering a corner at high speed when you know your car is PLANTED and won't tilt out.

 

Ever been glad you damaged a flag? I am. The one car I haven't switched to the CR yet took a big hit and post-race inspection revealed the damage

 

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Excellent opportunity to upgrade to a new modern flag. Guess what kind is replacing it? CR brass sandwich.

If you hit it with a black Sharpie, your racing buddies who don't read Slotblog will never know what just outbraked them into the Deadman

 

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I give this product 3 thumbs up :good: :good: :good: 


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Posted 20 August 2018 - 07:18 AM

Congrats to Jonathan Forsyth on taking the X12 Production race, this past weekend, at Speed and Sport Raceway, in San Diego, using the C/R Low CG, Red Fox guide.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 08:12 AM

Rereading this, I forgot to post, he took the win by 20 laps.

 

By no means am I implying the low CG flag was worth 20 laps, but it is great to see one of the members of the Mt. Rushmore of U.S. flat track racers, using your product, and stating he intends to use it at the upcoming ISRA Worlds in Finland.


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Posted 21 August 2018 - 10:25 AM

Mt. Rushmore:   :mosking: 

 

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 11:42 AM

Correction. Jonathan only won by 19 1/2 laps. LOL

 

It does look like he had fastest race lap, by (almost), a whopping .2.

 

Speaking of second/next fastest race lap, not sure if Rick Linn had one on his car, but he does have them.

 

Rick Linn is one the guys battling Casey, Justin, Jason, Matt, and the other Rick, for the last spot on the mountain, next to Paul, Jonathan and Chubby.


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Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 01:00 PM

:secret: You forgot Greg Gilbert!


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Posted 21 August 2018 - 01:39 PM

Not really.

He's seems pretty retired from flat track racing.

I sell him drag chassis kits.

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Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 01:59 PM

:secret: You forgot Greg Gilbert!

  

Not really.
He's seems pretty retired from flat track racing.
I sell him drag chassis kits.

Yeah Kevin,
When somebody talks about retiring,someone like you, tries to talk them out of it.

I just pull out the jackhammer, and say "next".

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Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 04:58 PM

Congrats to Jonathan Forsyth on taking the X12 Production race, this past weekend, at Speed and Sport Raceway, in San Diego, using the C/R Low CG, Red Fox guide.

 

I'm sure the guide is the reason he won.....or maybe the fact that he is a past ISRA Champion in the Production class.....and all around great driver. :rolleyes:


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